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Mark FournierMember
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Posted: 07/ 18/ 07 9:28 pm Post subject: Human Rights attack on Free Dominion |
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Mark Fournier
Free Dominion
July 18, 2007
Human Rights attack on Free Dominion
We have been waiting for six and a half years and the day has finally arrived, somebody is going to try to silence Free Dominion using the Canadian Human Rights Commission.
Moments ago we found this in Free Dominion's mailbox:
July 16, 2007
File 2006057
Ms. Connie Wilkins
c/o Free Dominion
2033 Unity Rd.
Kingston, ON
K0H 1M0
Dear Ms. Wilkins:
I am the investigator designated under Part III of the Canadian Human Rights Act to investigate the complaint of Ms. [name omitted at this time] against Free Dominion. As the investigator, it is my responsibility to gather the evidence in relation to the complainant's allegations and, once the investigation is complete, to report on my findings to the Members of the Commission.
The report will include a recommendation for the disposition of the complaint. I can recommend that a conciliator be appointed, if the evidence supports the allegations in the complaint, or that the complaint be dismissed, if the allegations are not supported by the evidence. I can also recommend to the Commission that a settlement be approved if the parties reach an agreement during the course of the investigation.
I am currently awaiting your full response to the allegations which is due on 18 July 2007.
I would like to draw your attention to section 48 of the Canadian Human Rights Act which allows the parties to settle a complaint in the course of investigation. I would be pleased to discuss the possibility of a settlement with you or your representative at any time.
You can reach me at the address and telephone number indicated at the bottom of the first page of this letter. My direct line is 999-999-9999 and my email address is OfficersName@chrc-ccdp.ca. Please note that there are security and confidentiality risks in sending information by email.
Yours Sincerely,
Officer's Name
Investigator
This looks real. It appears to be written on official Canadian Human Rights Commission letterhead stationary.
Other than the last name of the complaintant, this doesn't tell us much. It doesn't say what the complaint is about or anything else. Notice also that Connie was supposed to have responded to it by July 18, 2007, which is today. It was a fluke that we even checked the mailbox before we came home.
Somebody has likely decided that because they can't defeat some argument presented by someone at Free Dominion they will instead try to silence the whole site. It isn't going to work.
We will be keeping everybody posted on each development as it occurs. If this persecution actually proceeds it will not be under the cover of darkness, we will keep a very bright light shining every step of the way.
I promise. _________________ "If it takes force to impose your ideas on your fellow man, there is something wrong with your ideas. If you are willing to use force to impose your ideas on your fellow man, there is something wrong with you." - Entropy Squared
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Electric GulagJoined: 01 Dec 2006 Total posts: 863 Gender: Unknown
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Posted: 07/ 18/ 07 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Do you know what the nature of the complaint is? |
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Edward Kennedy
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Posted: 07/ 18/ 07 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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How interesting. Would you give me the "document" as I have a good use for it at the hunting camp privy.
Of course I think all would like to know the name of the complainant and pertinent details as well as the name of the so called official in charge who cannot probably spell the word "legal" never mind being unqualified in the legal arena.
I would like to personally correspond with all these people involved and of course attend any of the proceedings, and exercising my opinion and freedom of expression.  |
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Connie FournierMember
Joined: 06 Jan 2001 Total posts: 22166 Location: Kingston, Ontario Age: 44 Gender: Female
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Posted: 07/ 18/ 07 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Electric Gulag wrote: | | Do you know what the nature of the complaint is? |
They didn't even have the integrity to send me the complaint that I was supposed to respond to. I guess they wanted to make doubly sure I couldn't meet the deadline. _________________ "...single men must have access to donor eggs and “gestational carriers.” - David Johnston, Governor General Appointee
(The man Stephen Harper calls "the best of Canada") |
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styky
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Posted: 07/ 18/ 07 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | I would like to draw your attention to section 48 of the Canadian Human Rights Act which allows the parties to settle a complaint in the course of investigation. I would be pleased to discuss the possibility of a settlement with you or your representative at any time. |
What is meant by the word settlement. Is this a negtiated compromise or is this simply a demand for  _________________ FREE DOMINION FORUM RULES
All the great things are simple, and many can be expressed in a single word: freedom; justice; honor; duty; mercy; hope ~ Sir Winston Churchill
"The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people''''s money." Margaret Thatcher |
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texasredtop
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Posted: 07/ 18/ 07 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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Liberals don't like opposing opinions. If it doesn't fit with their own thoughts, then it should be silenced. How typical. Please keep us posted.
Will Canada do as China has done and silence the truth? What are they so afraid of? How cowardly. _________________ Pardon me Dick, but opinions posted on Free Dominion are those of the individual posters and are not necessarily the opinion of Free Dominion or its operators.
Free Dominion does not advocate violence, hate speech or an overthrow of the government.
PRAY FOR ROY
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Connie FournierMember
Joined: 06 Jan 2001 Total posts: 22166 Location: Kingston, Ontario Age: 44 Gender: Female
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Posted: 07/ 18/ 07 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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| styky wrote: | | Quote: | | I would like to draw your attention to section 48 of the Canadian Human Rights Act which allows the parties to settle a complaint in the course of investigation. I would be pleased to discuss the possibility of a settlement with you or your representative at any time. |
What is meant by the word settlement. Is this a negtiated compromise or is this simply a demand for  |
From what I understand, if someone says something you don't like you can ust use the Human Rights Commission to extort money from them. _________________ "...single men must have access to donor eggs and “gestational carriers.” - David Johnston, Governor General Appointee
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Electric GulagJoined: 01 Dec 2006 Total posts: 863 Gender: Unknown
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Posted: 07/ 18/ 07 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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| So I suppose this is a Kafka style trial - you don't even know what the accusation is? |
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styky
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Posted: 07/ 18/ 07 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Connie wrote: | | Electric Gulag wrote: | | Do you know what the nature of the complaint is? |
They didn't even have the integrity to send me the complaint that I was supposed to respond to. I guess they wanted to make doubly sure I couldn't meet the deadline. |
Take careful note of what is stated re complaints on their own web site.
http://www.chrc-ccdp.gc.ca/complaints/default-en.asp
http://www.chrc-ccdp.gc.ca/complaints/what_happens_now-en.asp _________________ FREE DOMINION FORUM RULES
All the great things are simple, and many can be expressed in a single word: freedom; justice; honor; duty; mercy; hope ~ Sir Winston Churchill
"The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people''''s money." Margaret Thatcher |
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Mark FournierMember
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Posted: 07/ 18/ 07 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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We should settle. If they give us a hundred grand we'll walk away. _________________ "If it takes force to impose your ideas on your fellow man, there is something wrong with your ideas. If you are willing to use force to impose your ideas on your fellow man, there is something wrong with you." - Entropy Squared |
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rsfJoined: 14 Jun 2007 Total posts: 638 Location: Niagara Gender: Male
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Posted: 07/ 18/ 07 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Connie wrote: | | Electric Gulag wrote: | | Do you know what the nature of the complaint is? |
They didn't even have the integrity to send me the complaint that I was supposed to respond to. I guess they wanted to make doubly sure I couldn't meet the deadline. |
could it be that they think you have already received the complaint?
hence the reason they gave today as the due date?
or maybe ... its shenanigans _________________ Ideology never meets reality with any grace - Bob Weir |
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Felix Culpa
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Posted: 07/ 18/ 07 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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Does the name of the complainant mean anything? Like, were they ever a member of FD? Or is this just a random surfer? _________________ If the Allies at the peace table at Versailles had allowed a Hohenzollern, a Wittelsbach and a Habsburg to return to their thrones, there would have been no Hitler. A democratic basis of society might have been preserved by a crowned Weimar in contact with the victorious Allies.” --Winston Churchill, 26th April 1946. |
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TeamNeedles
Joined: 29 Jun 2005 Total posts: 1053 Location: Waterloo, Ontario Age: 25 Gender: Male
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Posted: 07/ 18/ 07 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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| rsf wrote: | | or maybe ... its shenanigans |
That may indeed be it. Somebody who... let's just say isn't a fan... is yanking your chain.
I'd like everybody to know that, barring a stunning coincidance, the last name on the letter is NOT Needles.  _________________ 10 And all that have not fins and scales in the seas, and in the rivers, of all that move in the waters, and of any living thing which is in the waters, they shall be an abomination unto you:
11 They shall be even an abomination unto you; ye shall not eat of their flesh, but ye shall have their carcases in abomination. - Leviticus 11:10-11 |
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rwebbJoined: 05 Mar 2001 Total posts: 3388 Location: Winnipeg MB Canada Gender: Male
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Posted: 07/ 18/ 07 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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I can't decide it this is legitimate or not, but either way it's a pretty pathetic excuse for due process. A "full response" in less than two days to an unspecified complaint??? Come ON!
If it turns out to be legit, my opinion of the CHRC just took a nosedive. |
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rsfJoined: 14 Jun 2007 Total posts: 638 Location: Niagara Gender: Male
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Posted: 07/ 18/ 07 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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was it a registered letter?
seems to me they would have to make sure you signed for it
or hand it to you in person
(i am not a lawyer, but i play one on the internets) _________________ Ideology never meets reality with any grace - Bob Weir |
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