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PostPosted: 07/ 18/ 07 9:28 pm    Post subject: Human Rights attack on Free Dominion Reply with quote

Mark Fournier
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July 18, 2007

Human Rights attack on Free Dominion


We have been waiting for six and a half years and the day has finally arrived, somebody is going to try to silence Free Dominion using the Canadian Human Rights Commission.

Moments ago we found this in Free Dominion's mailbox:


July 16, 2007

File 2006057

Ms. Connie Wilkins
c/o Free Dominion
2033 Unity Rd.
Kingston, ON
K0H 1M0

Dear Ms. Wilkins:

I am the investigator designated under Part III of the Canadian Human Rights Act to investigate the complaint of Ms. [name omitted at this time] against Free Dominion. As the investigator, it is my responsibility to gather the evidence in relation to the complainant's allegations and, once the investigation is complete, to report on my findings to the Members of the Commission.

The report will include a recommendation for the disposition of the complaint. I can recommend that a conciliator be appointed, if the evidence supports the allegations in the complaint, or that the complaint be dismissed, if the allegations are not supported by the evidence. I can also recommend to the Commission that a settlement be approved if the parties reach an agreement during the course of the investigation.

I am currently awaiting your full response to the allegations which is due on 18 July 2007.

I would like to draw your attention to section 48 of the Canadian Human Rights Act which allows the parties to settle a complaint in the course of investigation. I would be pleased to discuss the possibility of a settlement with you or your representative at any time.

You can reach me at the address and telephone number indicated at the bottom of the first page of this letter. My direct line is 999-999-9999 and my email address is OfficersName@chrc-ccdp.ca. Please note that there are security and confidentiality risks in sending information by email.


Yours Sincerely,


Officer's Name
Investigator


This looks real. It appears to be written on official Canadian Human Rights Commission letterhead stationary.

Other than the last name of the complaintant, this doesn't tell us much. It doesn't say what the complaint is about or anything else. Notice also that Connie was supposed to have responded to it by July 18, 2007, which is today. It was a fluke that we even checked the mailbox before we came home.

Somebody has likely decided that because they can't defeat some argument presented by someone at Free Dominion they will instead try to silence the whole site. It isn't going to work.

We will be keeping everybody posted on each development as it occurs. If this persecution actually proceeds it will not be under the cover of darkness, we will keep a very bright light shining every step of the way.

I promise.
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PostPosted: 07/ 18/ 07 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you know what the nature of the complaint is?
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PostPosted: 07/ 18/ 07 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How interesting. Would you give me the "document" as I have a good use for it at the hunting camp privy.

Of course I think all would like to know the name of the complainant and pertinent details as well as the name of the so called official in charge who cannot probably spell the word "legal" never mind being unqualified in the legal arena.

I would like to personally correspond with all these people involved and of course attend any of the proceedings, and exercising my opinion and freedom of expression. Mad
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PostPosted: 07/ 18/ 07 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Electric Gulag wrote:
Do you know what the nature of the complaint is?


They didn't even have the integrity to send me the complaint that I was supposed to respond to. I guess they wanted to make doubly sure I couldn't meet the deadline.
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I would like to draw your attention to section 48 of the Canadian Human Rights Act which allows the parties to settle a complaint in the course of investigation. I would be pleased to discuss the possibility of a settlement with you or your representative at any time.


What is meant by the word settlement. Is this a negtiated compromise or is this simply a demand for
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PostPosted: 07/ 18/ 07 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Liberals don't like opposing opinions. If it doesn't fit with their own thoughts, then it should be silenced. How typical. Please keep us posted.

Will Canada do as China has done and silence the truth? What are they so afraid of? How cowardly.
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PostPosted: 07/ 18/ 07 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

styky wrote:
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I would like to draw your attention to section 48 of the Canadian Human Rights Act which allows the parties to settle a complaint in the course of investigation. I would be pleased to discuss the possibility of a settlement with you or your representative at any time.


What is meant by the word settlement. Is this a negtiated compromise or is this simply a demand for


From what I understand, if someone says something you don't like you can ust use the Human Rights Commission to extort money from them.
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PostPosted: 07/ 18/ 07 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So I suppose this is a Kafka style trial - you don't even know what the accusation is?
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Connie wrote:
Electric Gulag wrote:
Do you know what the nature of the complaint is?


They didn't even have the integrity to send me the complaint that I was supposed to respond to. I guess they wanted to make doubly sure I couldn't meet the deadline.


Take careful note of what is stated re complaints on their own web site.

http://www.chrc-ccdp.gc.ca/complaints/default-en.asp

http://www.chrc-ccdp.gc.ca/complaints/what_happens_now-en.asp
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PostPosted: 07/ 18/ 07 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We should settle. If they give us a hundred grand we'll walk away.
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PostPosted: 07/ 18/ 07 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Connie wrote:
Electric Gulag wrote:
Do you know what the nature of the complaint is?


They didn't even have the integrity to send me the complaint that I was supposed to respond to. I guess they wanted to make doubly sure I couldn't meet the deadline.


could it be that they think you have already received the complaint?

hence the reason they gave today as the due date?

or maybe ... its shenanigans
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PostPosted: 07/ 18/ 07 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does the name of the complainant mean anything? Like, were they ever a member of FD? Or is this just a random surfer?
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PostPosted: 07/ 18/ 07 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rsf wrote:
or maybe ... its shenanigans


That may indeed be it. Somebody who... let's just say isn't a fan... is yanking your chain.

I'd like everybody to know that, barring a stunning coincidance, the last name on the letter is NOT Needles. Wink
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PostPosted: 07/ 18/ 07 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't decide it this is legitimate or not, but either way it's a pretty pathetic excuse for due process. A "full response" in less than two days to an unspecified complaint??? Come ON! Rolling Eyes

If it turns out to be legit, my opinion of the CHRC just took a nosedive.
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PostPosted: 07/ 18/ 07 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

was it a registered letter?

seems to me they would have to make sure you signed for it

or hand it to you in person

(i am not a lawyer, but i play one on the internets)
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