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OfflineRobert LaCasse
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PostPosted: 12/ 22/ 02 6:52 am    Post subject: Gun Grab Raids! Reply with quote

This raid took place in Qualicum, B.C. on the east coast of Vancouver Island. I will forward more info as it becomes available.

Gerry Kirkham, Powell River, B.C.

It's Our Freedom That Keeps Us Safe, Not Our Safety That Keeps Us Free!

----- Original Message -----
From: Heinz Zach
To: Gerry Kirkham
Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2002 3:42 PM
Subject: Fw: RCMP Raid

-----Original Message-----

This is a FYI report:

Late this week a local firearms owner had his house raided by the RCMP.
They pushed there way in to his house ,when he was not home ,
They were rude and offensive to his wife,and demanded that she leave,or be arrested.
They ransacked his house,without presenting a search warrant to the wife(it was left on top of the fridge).
They forced their way in to his well secured firearms room
Cut and smashed all locks off of his ammunition cubboards to gain access
Cut they locks off all his firearms cabinets
They took everything in his firearms room ,including all his firearms paper work
They took paperwork of stuff that had no bearing to firearms


He came home to a very upset wife,his life long firearms collection is gone , His house is ransacked.


The reason for the search warrant you ask:
Written on it was the reason , Searching for a Handgun that the Firearms office said he owned and didn't register, he DOES NOT have this handgun and has no RECORD of ever having it.But the firearms office reports that he did own it.

Anybody that has gotten there firearms registrations back already knows how screwed up it is.chances are out of 10 registrations you have atleast 1 error on a registration.


So in summary,
This person did evrything right and followed evry part of the law to make sure that he had complied with Bill C-68 the firearms act,by regeresting all his firearms and proper storage of all.
One error on behalf of the government and BANG all his stuff is gone and he faces criminal charges.
Even if this matter is cleared up ,chances of him getting his firearms back are slim,
He doesnt even have paper work to prove what he owned ,because they have taken all that too.

Suggest every person make duplicate copies off their firearms list and store them in a safty deposit box or some where safe,

Also there is going to be a defence fund started for this person to help with legal costs,any people interested in helping can contact me and i will pass along the info,

Out of respect for this person i have not used there name in this e-mail,i just wanted to let everyone know of this tragic event.

Pirated by Robert LaCasse from Seeters' [chat]

Yours in Liberty
Bob
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OfflineRobert LaCasse
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PostPosted: 12/ 23/ 02 2:34 am    Post subject: Vote Above for Support..Update! Reply with quote

To: cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca
Subject: [chat] Fw: Udate on Raid
From: axitec@shaw.ca
Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 12:23:25 -0800
Cc: cdn-firearms-chat@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca

Update # 3
Gerry kirkham, Powell River, B.C.

It's Our Freedom That Keeps Us Safe, Not Our Safety That Keeps Us Free!
----- Original Message -----
From: Heinz Zach
To: Gerry Kirkham
Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2002 3:44 PM
Subject: Fw: Udate on Raid

-----Original Message-----
From: Kerry Young

Date: December 22, 2002 3:37 AM
Subject: Udate on Raid

I have just gotten off the phone with Brian Ward, the person involved in this raid
He has given permission for me to release his name to all of us that are concerned
Brian lives in Qualicum Beach and said that he is willing to talk to anybody that will listen.

After talking with him and hearing what took place, im even more appalled at this government.
So he has given me permission to post his name and contact,His phone is ringing off the hook so he may not answer

Brian Ward
Qualicum Beach
Vancouver Island
250-752-5791



thank you
Kerry
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What we have here is another Allen Carlos state of bullying, and no care any for civilian rights at all!

We all expect to be philanthropic martyrs to the snake gov't that plaques us legal owners!
These tactics are not new to the police, they are not any more congenial than any street turf grabbers so far as I have seen in my last 50+ years...tell me otherwise!

If I want congenial, I'll talk to the various Military establishments around Canada. For some strange reason, they treat me very well, and diplomatic, whereas the street police give me a fistfull of "exercise gloves" for no CLEU/NWEST reason.

Do we have another Pol Pot running this Gov't/Firearms situation? All the moves are similar to Cambodia and Vietnam, all tactics from the N-zi Mein Kempf!

Yours in Justice Smile

Bob
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PostPosted: 12/ 23/ 02 5:38 am    Post subject: What a question! Reply with quote

What kind of idiot would think it's OK?

Do you think that registration might lead to confiscation? Wink
Was this guy charged with a crime?
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PostPosted: 12/ 23/ 02 6:23 am    Post subject: Re: What a question! Reply with quote

hondoa68 wrote:
What kind of idiot would think it's OK?
Do you think that registration might lead to confiscation? Wink
Was this guy charged with a crime?


No Crime, but like Peter Kearns/A.Carlos, he gave the RCMP a hard time by winning against them before in court...which leads to trumps/frames and other legal nit-picks. as far back as BNA but Senator Anne "Ruger" Cools has made revisions!

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PostPosted: 09/ 10/ 06 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many of us have watched the RCMP and have lost all respect for them. I note a few of them have been eliminated in the course of their work and I believe these bullies will find their uniforms will not protect them as they practice KGB tactics. If they loose the support of the honest people they seem to be persecuting, they will have them lined up against them as well as the regular criminal element.

I lost respect the year they allowed their dress code to be violated and then acceded to a sikh who wanted to wear a turban. It shows in my attitude towards them when I encounter them.

This is the latest incident of persecution that also occurs in Ontario. The solution is a big fat lawsuit against them, and the fiearms registry assh---s. every time this happens.
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PostPosted: 09/ 10/ 06 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

backwoods wrote:
Many of us have watched the RCMP and have lost all respect for them. I note a few of them have been eliminated in the course of their work and I believe these bullies will find their uniforms will not protect them as they practice KGB tactics. If they loose the support of the honest people they seem to be persecuting, they will have them lined up against them as well as the regular criminal element.

I lost respect the year they allowed their dress code to be violated and then acceded to a sikh who wanted to wear a turban. It shows in my attitude towards them when I encounter them.

This is the latest incident of persecution that also occurs in Ontario. The solution is a big fat lawsuit against them, and the fiearms registry assh---s. every time this happens.


This is a travesty. I hope some day we get to a place where people are willing to risk a criminal record and actively oppose these fascists wether they show up in an RCMP uniform or not. There is a reason why socialist snots in the RCMP play hard ball with a lone gun owner who is otherwise law abiding but give armed (often drunk and dangerous) Indians ridiculous amounts of latitude.
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PostPosted: 09/ 10/ 06 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am that guy who is willing to risk a criminal record to oppose such illegal tactics. It does not matter whether the perpetrators are dressed in police uniforms or not, if they are committing a criminal act I would oppose them much as I would a criminal seeking entry into my house. It does not matter who it is, they are judged on whether they are committing an illegal act or not. They will pick the wrong guy one of these times and regret it. I would not be afraid to be tried for defending my property against anyone, police or criminal. If they are committing a crime, it is not legal even though sanctioned by some asswipe in the gun registry.

As I informed a policeman in writing last year, an "asshole is still an asshole even in a uniform".
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PostPosted: 09/ 10/ 06 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

backwoods wrote:
I am that guy who is willing to risk a criminal record to oppose such illegal tactics. It does not matter whether the perpetrators are dressed in police uniforms or not, if they are committing a criminal act I would oppose them much as I would a criminal seeking entry into my house. It does not matter who it is, they are judged on whether they are committing an illegal act or not. They will pick the wrong guy one of these times and regret it. I would not be afraid to be tried for defending my property against anyone, police or criminal. If they are committing a crime, it is not legal even though sanctioned by some asswipe in the gun registry.

As I informed a policeman in writing last year, an "asshole is still an asshole even in a uniform".


You are a good man backwoods. If you are ever in Alberta make sure you look me up. My phone is: 780-457-6050, I believe we have enough in common to fight and make Canada a more livable place. The only difference I see in our approach is you might wish to decaptitate Tanpro while I would prefer the more "moderate" approach of sending him for 25 years worth of "re-education through labour and indoctrination"........ Laughing

I am a member in good standing with the NFA. I will be sending this thread to the President. I would like to take this opportunity to encourage people to join the NFA. They are in my opinion the most effective organization in Canada in regards to protecting firearms rights....
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PostPosted: 09/ 11/ 06 5:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will tell you William that I know good ole boys who like me are not going to take any shite from the system. I also am a member of the NFA as they are in the fight.

The system is only bringing big trouble on itself by persecuting good people and is/will find that they are heaping to themselves unprecedented opposition. The cowards behind the shock troops(police) will find they will personally have to answer to those they harass. That will be the beginning of the end when this category is targetted in earnest and it is/will happen.

Pissing people off who are model citizens is a fool's game and when the system picks someone who has nothing to lose, then thngs will get shaken up real good. When lieberal liars realize they cannot hide behind the system when they harass good people, the shite WILL stop.

As to you and your modus operandi, I support both and the opposition can be damned if they want.
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