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 Posted: 09/ 21/ 05 12:31 pm Post subject: You whimps know knothing about high taxes |
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http://www.fcpp.org/pdf/FC0202005TaxLoadIndex.pdf
We rule!
er suck,
GRAPHICAL ANALYSIS FROM THE FRONTIER CENTRE FOR PUBLIC POL ICY
A Year of Zero Tax Reductions - 2005 Tax Load Index
Total
BC 46.13%
AB 27.80%
SK 50.58%
MB 52.78%
ON 52.11%
ND 34.13%
MN 33.15%
MT 27.25%
For the past few years the Frontier Centre for Public
has prepared a tax load index for the Northern Plains
This year, the second year in a row with little change
rates, the index has been improved to better capture
taxes and employment insurance tax rates. The
Index offers a simple measure of tax competitiveness
western Canada and adjacent jurisdictions,[snip]
Like why did my parents have to move to a province of socialists?
Why not North Dakota? Heaven forbid i use the money to buy more medical insurance. |
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Nemo2
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| Posted: 09/ 21/ 05 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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Have you considered.........um..............moving?
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DrWright
Joined: 18 Nov 2004 Total posts: 2494 Gender: Male
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| Posted: 09/ 21/ 05 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Nemo2 wrote: | | Have you considered.........um..............moving? |
Yes!
53% thats incredible. 47 for me 53 for you cos martin, doer,and katz are the taxmen!
ohhh yeah the tax men and on top of that school taxes too.
I think most states. Most US cities there are safer than Winnipeg even though we have gun control we'd be around the 56th percentile. Imagine.
Or theres Australia,....
I was thinking of going back to ontario but why?
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http://marginalizedactiondinosaur.net/?p=855
2. Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms:
a) freedom of conscience and religion; b) freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication; c) freedom of peaceful assembly; and d) freedom of association.
Are you in violation CHRC commies? |
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styky
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| Posted: 09/ 21/ 05 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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Property taxes and property value has all but doubled in price over the last 10 years in Winnipeg. One of the problems that we will soon be finding is that wages are not keeping up with this hefty increase. We are pricing our people out of the market. If the NDP is left to it's devices for a few more years you will see more and more of the working poor become unable to aford to make ends meet.
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DrWright
Joined: 18 Nov 2004 Total posts: 2494 Gender: Male
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| Posted: 09/ 21/ 05 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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| styky wrote: | | Property taxes and property value has all but doubled in price over the last 10 years in Winnipeg. One of the problems that we will soon be finding is that wages are not keeping up with this hefty increase. We are pricing our people out of the market. If the NDP is left to it's devices for a few more years you will see more and more of the working poor become unable to aford to make ends meet. |
Well then you just put them on welfare and when every last Manitoban is reduced to getting public money our economy will really take off.
People are dumb, socialists are a bit dumber.
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I know I looked at making a corporate investment from equity in my house and finally figured I'll hope to move to where they don't want to punish you so much for making a living in a few years pay more down. Why be a masochist and stay?
The Aspers are putting their money in an income trust to avoid taxes. Bet they get more than both of us to live on at the end of the year. I'm not against that but if someone earns more than me and supports spend then tax parties they should be the first in line to pay. But I'll have to pay for their human rights museum that doesn't care about 3,000,000 canadian abortions.
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re thought police, witch hunts & the Charter.
http://marginalizedactiondinosaur.net/?p=855
2. Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms:
a) freedom of conscience and religion; b) freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication; c) freedom of peaceful assembly; and d) freedom of association.
Are you in violation CHRC commies? |
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styky
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| Posted: 09/ 21/ 05 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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| DrWright wrote: | | styky wrote: | | Property taxes and property value has all but doubled in price over the last 10 years in Winnipeg. One of the problems that we will soon be finding is that wages are not keeping up with this hefty increase. We are pricing our people out of the market. If the NDP is left to it's devices for a few more years you will see more and more of the working poor become unable to aford to make ends meet. |
Well then you just put them on welfare and when every last Manitoban is reduced to getting public money our economy will really take off.
People are dumb, socialists are a bit dumber.
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I know I looked at making a corporate investment from equity in my house and finally figured I'll hope to move to where they don't want to punish you so much for making a living in a few years pay more down. Why be a masochist and stay?
The Aspers are putting their money in an income trust to avoid taxes. Bet they get more than both of us to live on at the end of the year. I'm not against that but if someone earns more than me and supports spend then tax parties they should be the first in line to pay. But I'll have to pay for their human rights museum that doesn't care about 3,000,000 canadian abortions.
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I think we'll play it smart and retire to the lake. 
Heck of a lot cheaper than living in town. 
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Hodgson
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| Posted: 09/ 21/ 05 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Manitoba still has time to save itself. Saskatchewan on the other hand.... |
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carfix2000ca
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| Posted: 09/ 21/ 05 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Before Dalton the D**khead is done we will be ahead of you |
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| Enn Location: Ottawa Gender: Male
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| Posted: 09/ 21/ 05 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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All Canadians pay too much in taxes for the value they get back.
The reference above shows Manitoba paying slightly more percentage tax that Ontario, based on that estimate.
For a comparison across all provinces, consider my post below from earlier this year, based on Fraser Institute estimates in 2004, which are close to the estimate above.
More importantly, consider the wide disparity between Canada and the US' Tax Freedom Day, and how our higher taxes buy us poor comparative value.
Ever wonder why we pay and pay and pay, yet our "socialist eutopia" doesn't seem to pay off?
Because of government fiscal mismanagement: Corruption, excessive bureaucracy, economically inefficient pork-barrelling, subsidies and patronage programs all designed to win power, secure it, enjoy it and profit from it.
Canadians are getting ripped off. No wonder we feel we are falling behind in personal wellness compared to other countries: It's because we are!
http://www.freedominion.ca/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=37498
| Quote: | How does Tax Freedom Day in Canada and the U.S.A. compare?
U.S.A.: http://www.taxfoundation.org/taxfreedomday.htmlis April 17 this year.
Definition: | Quote: | | Tax Freedom Day is calculated by dividing the official government tally of all taxes collected in each year by the official government tally of all income earned in each year. Governments — federal, state and local — took |
Taxes as a Percentage of Income are 29.1% in the U.S.A.
U.S. Tax Freedom Day
Canada: http://www.fraserinstitute.ca/shared/readmore.asp?sNav=nr&id=613 for the year 2004 was June 28.
Definition: | Quote: | | The taxes used to compute Tax Freedom Day include income taxes, property taxes, and sales taxes, as well as profit taxes, health, social security and employment taxes, import duties, license fees, taxes on the consumption of alcohol and tobacco (‘sin’ taxes), natural resource fees, fuel taxes, hospital taxes, and a host of other levies. |
Taxes as a Percentage of Income are 48.8% in Canada.
About that historical tax cut that Mr. Dithers often boasts about? The one where he says it's the largest tax cut in Canadian history?
| Quote: | | “The fact that Tax Freedom Day has been steadily increasing since 2001 and comes only four days earlier than its peak should be cause for concern. All the talk of tax relief has not resulted in meaningful reductions in the tax burden for Canadian families,” commented Veldhuis. |
Note the trend in Table 7: Climbing year after year since 1981, except the Fraser Institute reports: "After a seven-day decline from 2000 to 2001, Tax Freedom Day has been steadily increasing."
Canadian Tax Rates
But you say, Canada has its public health care system and the U.S has private health insurance! According to the Fraser Institute Report http://www.fraserinstitute.ca/admin/books/files/CSFENGrev.pdfp. 27:
| Quote: | The good news about Canadian health care is that Canadians are living longer and healthier lives than they were 30 years ago. The bad news is that while recent data shows Canada tied with Iceland as the number-one per-capita spender on health care among all the OECD countries with universal access health systems, we are not number one in any of the major categories used to measure the quality of health care provided (see Table 1).
According to a recent study, Canada ranks sixteenth in terms of doctors per capita (2.3 doctors for every 1000 Canadians), out of the 23 countries for which data is available. With respect to access to advanced medical technology, we ranked fifteenth of 24 in access to MRIs, seventeenth of 23 in access to CT scanners, and eighth of 22 in access to radiation scanners. Despite spending more on health care than any other industrialized country in the OECD (except Iceland), our citizens ranked fourteenth in the percentage of total life expectancy that will be lived disability free, sixteenth in infant mortality, eighth in mortality amenable to health care, ninth in potential years of life lost to disease, and sixth in the incidence of breast cancer mortality (Esmail and Walker, 2004). |
So if our health care is so comparatively lousy compared to other OECD nations, where are all those extra taxes going? According to the same Fraser Institute report (p. 7) not to our military:
| Quote: | The Canadian military, once a source of national pride, has for many years been starved of funding, equipment, and personnel. This is true whether the services are viewed in absolute size, size relative to the population, or military spending as a percentage of GDP.
* Canada’s 52,500-person armed forces ranks 56th in the world, just behind Croatia and Sweden.
* Canada has 1.83 military personnel per 1,000 residents. By this measure, our armed forces are the smallest among the 26-member NATO alliance except for Luxembourg and Iceland; and 118th in the world, just ahead of Togo.
* Canada spends 1.1% of its GDP on the military—133rd in the world, tied with El Salvador, the Dominican Republic, Niger, and the Central African Republic. (International Institute for Strategic Studies, 2002). |
What about foreign aid? Canadians pride ourselves as the quintessential "kind and generous nation," right?
| Quote: | | Our national government talks about its compassionate commitment to helping the world’s poor but its actions do not begin to match the commitment of the Canadian people to that objective. The Canadian government’s budget for foreign aid (as a percentage of GDP) is 0.26%, placing it thirteenth among the 22 rich OECD aid-giving nations, and its efforts to open free-trade doors for impoverished nations (the real answer to combating poverty internationally) are even weaker than its commitments to military and foreign-aid spending. |
Where does the money go, then? Government waste, corruption and cronyism, unaccounted trust funds for foundations, pork-barreling and sponsorships?
Summary :
* The difference in total tax rates between Canada and the US is 48.8-29.1= 19.1%.
* Almost 20% more of your income is siphoned off as taxes in Canada than in the US.
* For the dollar you earn in the U.S., all levels of government combined take nearly 30 cents.
* For the dollar you earn in the Canada, all levels of government combined take nearly 50 cents.
* Put another way, the average Canadian tax rate is 67.7% higher then the US tax rate.
Is our nanny state worth 67.7% higher taxes then the U.S.?
The CPC policy includes plans for deep tax cuts. The 2005 Liberal budget gave a $16 personal income tax cut: the typical cost of one pizza. Given that the average Canadian http://www.fraserinstitute.ca/shared/readmore.asp?sNav=nr&id=613 was $12,306 in 2004 (refer to Tax Freedom Day tables link), that's a whopping 0.13% tax cut!
The Certified General Accountants Association of Canada gave the budget a http://www.cga-canada.org/budget2005/scorecard.htmfor competitive tax policy.
Meanwhile, the government is on a http://www.cga-canada.org/budget2005/scorecard.htm#govspending, exceeding growth in the GDP:
| Quote: | | Program expenses are expected to increase by 11.9 per cent in 2004 — 05. Average annual growth in program expenses over the 2005 — 06 to 2009 — 10 periods is projected to be around four per cent. |
Oh, thank-you so much for the irresponsible budget, Mr. Dithers! |
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styky
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| Posted: 09/ 21/ 05 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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Enn thanks for the reminder  I new there had to be a reason why my income just wasn't cutting it anymore. 
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gislison
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| Posted: 09/ 22/ 05 12:43 am Post subject: |
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| Hodgson wrote: | | Manitoba still has time to save itself. Saskatchewan on the other hand.... |
...has the potential for the most improvement!
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