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 The Invisible Hand
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 Posted: 03/ 15/ 05 9:09 am Post subject: Anyone else getting these anti-Harper e-mails? |
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I got two of these yesterday. Both are crude photoshops of Stephen Harper's head on a dog's body, with the slogans "This dog don't hunt" and "What's killing the grass(roots)?"
The return addresses are "delegates4democracy" (agathadulce@myway.com) and "Krista Porter" (kristaporter@myway.com). According to the Received headers, they came from IP 64.231.254.10, which resolves to "HSE-Montreal-ppp136971.qc.sympatico.ca". I've also got the message ID and anti-abuse headers:
Message-Id: <20050314183841.9D6A03A32@mprdmxin.myway.com>
X-AntiAbuse: ID = 5be482003b251b68100e1574c0df1564
Message-Id: <20050315015736.D1ECB39A3@mprdmxin.myway.com>
X-AntiAbuse: ID = 65c914c06c86dbb7ca230309adb876d1
Anyone out there who might be able to figure out who exactly send these? It's nice to see the anti-Harper side is so "professional"... 
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Tory4Canada
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| Posted: 03/ 15/ 05 9:49 am Post subject: |
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I have one word for you: Liberals
I suspect that this is the work of some Liberal strategists trying to divide and ultimately weaken the party at this weeks convention.
The Liberals are hoping for a huge bloodbath between the PC half and the Reform Alliance half of the party. This is nothing more than Liberals trying to make Harper lose the leadership vote.
It wouldn't be the first time Liberals have done this sort of thing. They play dirty.
It could be some conservatives who are annoyed with Harper but I don't think so. This smells of cheap Liberal war tactics. |
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EdS
Joined: 06 Jan 2001 Total posts: 16956 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Age: 15 Gender: Male
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| Posted: 03/ 15/ 05 10:04 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | HSE-Montreal-ppp136971.qc.sympatico.ca. |
Montreal, eh? Liberals, definitely.
Someone ought to check the delegates lists for "Agatha Dulce" and "Krista Porter". If found, they should be thrown out of the party.
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Roy Wilson
Joined: 04 Apr 2004 Total posts: 27708 Location: Peterborough Age: 61 Gender: Male
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| Posted: 03/ 15/ 05 10:06 am Post subject: |
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No justanother mass mailing I was left out of. 
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Grig
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| Posted: 03/ 15/ 05 10:28 am Post subject: |
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Whois record
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MYWAY.COM
Language: ENG
Created: 12/3/2004 5:27:00 PM
Updated: 1/6/2005 3:59:00 AM
Expires: 11/22/2008 12:00:00 AM
Ask Jeeves, Inc. (56N74PTT1)
555 12th Street Suite 500
Oakland,, CA 94607
United States
Phone: Inc." Fax: 510-985-7400
E-Mail: dnsmanager@askjeeves.com
Updated: 3/7/2005 1:29:00 PM
Created: 12/8/2004 6:10:00 AM
Administrative Contact:
DNS Manager (FQ1OH0T0T)
Ask Jeeves, Inc
555 12th Street Suite 500
Oakland, CA 94607
United States
Phone: 510-985-7400 Fax: 510-985-7400
E-Mail: dnsmanager@askjeeves.com
Updated: 3/11/2005 8:17:00 AM
Created: 1/6/2005 4:00:00 AM
Billing Contact:
eBS Billing Dept. (AY6B2QT4V)
eBrandSecure LLC
3550 Wilshire Blvd #430
Los Angeles, CA 90010
United States
Phone: 213 387 0070 Fax: 213 387 2270
E-Mail: billing@ebrandsecure.com
Updated: 3/15/2005 7:11:00 AM
Created: 8/12/2004 11:13:00 AM
Technical Contact:
DNS Administrator (8MI8WW82Q)
Ask Jeeves, Inc.
555 12th Street Suite 500
Oakland,, CA 94607
United States
Phone: 510-985-7400 Fax: 510-985-7400
E-Mail: dns@askjeeves.com
Updated: 3/11/2005 8:17:00 AM
Created: 1/6/2005 4:01:00 AM
DNS Servers:
DNS4.IMGFARM.COM (208.45.133.230)
DNS5.IMGFARM.COM (208.45.133.231)
NS1-156.AKAM.NET (193.108.91.156)
USE1.AKAM.NET (65.163.234.133)
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My guess is that the myway.com bit is faked.
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Mr. Valentine
Joined: 30 Jan 2003 Total posts: 4161 Location: Nova Scotia Gender: Male
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| Posted: 03/ 15/ 05 10:33 am Post subject: |
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| EdS wrote: | | Quote: | | HSE-Montreal-ppp136971.qc.sympatico.ca. |
Montreal, eh? Liberals, definitely.
Someone ought to check the delegates lists for "Agatha Dulce" and "Krista Porter". If found, they should be thrown out of the party.
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For being spammers.
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| Smaug Joined: 13 Jul 2004 Total posts: 7396 Location: Edmonton Gender: Unknown
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| Posted: 03/ 15/ 05 10:35 am Post subject: |
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Maybe some Liberal in the media sent it to themselves alla Dan Rather so they could write about a story that has no real foundation.
Who is this reporter, how did she get the picture? |
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Grig
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| Brownteddy38 Joined: 07 Aug 2004 Total posts: 187 Gender: Unknown
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| Posted: 03/ 15/ 05 10:36 am Post subject: |
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Actually, I think the myway.com part is valid. If you take a look at myway, you can access other webmail services through their portal. A trip through a couple of anon proxies, myway.com and then another webmail or just he myway mail would make it difficult for most people to trace. Unfortunately, it's just too easy to do this kind of crap now. A quick google will give you all the info you need to wash your tracks from the average search. Add in a public terminal somewhere and things start getting even more difficult.
Just take the emails as motivation to make sure Stephen gets an even higher approval rating than expected. |
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| Enn Location: Ottawa Gender: Male
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| Posted: 03/ 15/ 05 10:55 am Post subject: |
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Tory4Canada wrote:
| Quote: | I have one word for you: Liberals
I suspect that this is the work of some Liberal strategists trying to divide and ultimately weaken the party at this weeks convention. |
Where is da proof of dat, uh? Is dat proven?
My handlers will let you know how we'll respond when we complete the poll on that very, very important question.
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| The Masked Tory Joined: 21 Jan 2004 Total posts: 592 Location: The Great Right Wilderness Gender: Unknown
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| Posted: 03/ 15/ 05 11:06 am Post subject: |
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| EdS wrote: | | Quote: | | HSE-Montreal-ppp136971.qc.sympatico.ca. |
Montreal, eh? Liberals, definitely.
Someone ought to check the delegates lists for "Agatha Dulce" and "Krista Porter". If found, they should be thrown out of the party.
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Come on now. They might be Liberals, but you think they would be stupid enough to use their real names on something like this?
But in any case, Agatha Dulce and Krista Porter do not exist on the delegate list anywhere in this country. |
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| Posted: 03/ 15/ 05 11:09 am Post subject: |
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| Roy Wilson wrote: | | No justanother mass mailing I was left out of. |
You're in good company ....I did not receive any either.
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| Posted: 03/ 15/ 05 11:32 am Post subject: |
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This is front and centre on bourque today with the photo which I will not post...
Criticism dogs Tory leader
By MARIA McCLINTOCK, Parliamentary Bureau
A doctored photo of Stephen Harper that has been e-mailed to Tory delegates.
Stephen Harper is a dog of a leader, according to a picture sent out to Conservative delegates who will vote on his leadership at the party's convention in Montreal. The doctored picture has Harper's head pasted on the body of a dog over the headline, "This Dog Don't Hunt," and was mass e-mailed to delegates yesterday.
It's believed to be the work of hard-core right-wingers in the party who fear the Tory boss is turning the party into "Liberal Lite."
"A lot of growling has resulted from its distribution. The regional organizers are in a tizzy and trying to get a muzzle on someone," one Ontario delegate said of the picture.
"Everybody is playing the blame game. We don't even know yet how they are going to run the vote or what/when they will announce the results."
Gerry Nicholls of the National Citizens Coalition, where Harper once worked, said there's "concern" among conservatives about the direction he's taking the party.
"A lot people who belong to the conservative party want the party to be a real small 'c' conservative alternative to the Liberal party," said Nicholls.
"There's some concern that the party is getting wishy-washy on certain issues."
Tom Thompson, riding association president for Ottawa-Centre, called the doctored photo "foolish" and political shenanigans.
"Everybody has got the right to send some stuff out but the vast majority of folks I talk to coast to coast ... are pleased with the way Stephen and the whole team have performed," said Thompson. "You're always going to have some fool out there who's going to try and throw stuff out such as that."
Harper's spokesman, Geoff Norquay, said he "wouldn't dignify this kind of silliness with a serious comment."
maria. mcclintock@tor.sunpub.com
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| gimbol Joined: 04 Sep 2003 Total posts: 3948
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| Posted: 03/ 15/ 05 11:44 am Post subject: |
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Who wrote this? - If your getting flak, you must be over the target.
My read on all this, is that the liberals didn't get the bump in poll numbers they where hoping for after their convention. That and the Dither's tag is still sticking much to their dismay.
For that matter, the jungle drums are still saying that the LPC is desparately trying to tag Harper with a moniker like the one dither's Martin got. The trouble is, just as this latest weak attempt shows, if its not spontaneous it won't stick. The dither's tag is doing more damage than the liberals want to admit.
Here's a tag for Harper that the liberal's should get used to.
Stephen Harper, Canada's next Prime Minister.
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