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PostPosted: 12/ 22/ 05 11:27 pm    Post subject: CPAC Features London-Fanshawe: Is It Just Me, Or... Reply with quote

...are they rooting for anybody but the CPC?!

I never realized until this evening just how biased and left-leaning CPAC was until I watched their riding profile tonight of my home riding, London-Fanshawe.

The first 15 minutes were spent interviewing the NDP candidate Irene Mathyssen and the Liberal candidate Glen Pearson. Irene and Glen kept saying how poor London-Fanshawe is, yet the CPAC crew followed Glen throughout Summerside, one of the more expensive and newest suburbs in our riding! Rolling Eyes

They never once brought up the fact that Glen Pearson said in the London Free Press a few weeks ago that he was not going to campaign, yet there he was, going door to door, doing what looked suspiciously like campaigning to me!
I kept waiting for the CPAC reporter to bring up the fact that Glen seems to be following the Liberal penchant for stretching truth before he is even elected, but of course that was never mentioned.

Oh, and by the way Glen, nice touch, going to the home of one of Liberal MP Joe Fontana's secretaries, people I just happened to recognize, and pretending it was a new contact! While you were at the door pretending to win these "strangers" over, your people had the lawn sign almost installed already! Rolling Eyes

I'd say that is deceptive and misleading, pretending that these people were strangers to him when they most certainly owe their bread and butter to the Liberals! Like Joe Fontana's secretary is not going to vote Liberal?! Mad

The CPC candidate, Dan Mailer, got about four minutes, and then it was back to Irene again!
Dan's canvassing scene was at least honest, as he was in a Tim Horton's drive through line meeting real strangers, and, since he did not know them prior to the filming, he did not how they would react. They were real people, not staged Liberal plants that he knew would be friendly!

Then it was back to Glen Pearson, the Liberal, for about 3 minutes, then to Dan for about 3, to the Green Party guy, then back to Irene, then Glen, then Dan for another few minutes. The NDP candidate and the Liberal definitely took the lion's share of the hour.
Oh, and for the first few seconds of interviewing Dan Mailer, they had wrongly identified him as the Liberal candidate Glen Pearson in the name heading under the screen! Rolling Eyes

I was pleased to see Dan make such strong statements regarding his social conservativism in the same-sex marriage issue.
It is pretty clear that Glen Pearson and Irene Mathyssen want to deny Canadians any further voice on the issue and "move on."

Pat O'Brien made some good, strong points about the traditional marriage issue being supported by over 85% of the riding!

I applaud Dan Mailer for a great interview, sticking to his guns on ssm, and for mentioning the manufacturing base of our riding, and that there have been great losses in that regard here in recent years.
He also mentioned that he is the only candidate who actually lives here, in sharp contrast to Irene and Glen's profuse professions of such deep affection for our riding. They don't even live here!

Good job Dan, kudos to you for keeping it honest and real!!
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PostPosted: 12/ 22/ 05 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Oh, and by the way Glen, nice touch, going to the home of one of Liberal MP Joe Fontana's secretaries, people I just happened to recognize, and pretending it was a new contact! While you were at the door pretending to win these "strangers" over, your people had the lawn sign almost installed already! Rolling Eyes

I'd say that is deceptive and misleading, pretending that these people were strangers to him when they most certainly owe their bread and butter to the Liberals! Like Joe Fontana's secretary is not going to vote Liberal?! Mad


Clearly, they stage and preplan these "spontaneous events" because they think they can fool the audience.

The Liberals did the same thing with their first set of ads where so-called ordinary Canadians glorified Mr. Dithers and the Liberals, but it quickly turned our that the people in the ads were connected Liberals, such as MP Rudy Dhallas' brother. I wonder how much the LPC paid their insiders for their deceiptful ads? Think

Stephen Taylor and Small Dead Animals did research that showed that one ad about Martin "standing up to the US," clearly intended to reinforce Martin's hypocritical criticism of the US for not signing up to Kyoto, was filmed long before his international speech. In other words, Martins' scorn of the US was preplanned since the ads that reacted glowingly to it were planned in advance of his speech as well.

Watching the CPAC show on London-Fanshawe, I too was astounded how much time Martin Stringer spent with the NDP and Liberal candidates - the NDP in particular. Maybe he had a crush on the Dipper?
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PostPosted: 12/ 23/ 05 1:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Oh, and by the way Glen, nice touch, going to the home of one of Liberal MP Joe Fontana's secretaries, people I just happened to recognize, and pretending it was a new contact! While you were at the door pretending to win these "strangers" over, your people had the lawn sign almost installed already! Rolling Eyes

I'd say that is deceptive and misleading, pretending that these people were strangers to him when they most certainly owe their bread and butter to the Liberals! Like Joe Fontana's secretary is not going to vote Liberal?! Mad


Clearly, they stage and preplan these "spontaneous events" because they think they can fool the audience.

The Liberals did the same thing with their first set of ads where so-called ordinary Canadians glorified Mr. Dithers and the Liberals, but it quickly turned our that the people in the ads were connected Liberals, such as MP Rudy Dhallas' brother. I wonder how much the LPC paid their insiders for their deceiptful ads? Think

Stephen Taylor and Small Dead Animals did research that showed that one ad about Martin "standing up to the US," clearly intended to reinforce Martin's hypocritical criticism of the US for not signing up to Kyoto, was filmed long before his international speech. In other words, Martins' scorn of the US was preplanned since the ads that reacted glowingly to it were planned in advance of his speech as well.

Watching the CPAC show on London-Fanshawe, I too was astounded how much time Martin Stringer spent with the NDP and Liberal candidates - the NDP in particular. Maybe he had a crush on the Dipper?


Normally I would have let such a "little thing" as that stunt at the door pass, but it seems so very representative of the belief system of Liberals in general, this contempt for the intelligence of the voter. I know that family quite well as their kids interact with mine, so the deception really stood out for me.
Manipulating and messing around with the truth comes so easily to these Liberals, but it is justified because of the righteousness of their cause! Mad
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PostPosted: 12/ 23/ 05 1:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hopefully a lot of the O'Brien vote will swing Conservative - they need to realize that they are going to get a pawn of Dithers, not someone with his own mind, if they elect a new Liberal.
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PostPosted: 12/ 23/ 05 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I noticed the CPAC reporter alluded to that, HeartofSong.
He made the comment to Glen Pearson, "Let's not get into who phoned whom."
Rumor has it here that Martin himself contacted Pearson and made him an offer he couldn't refuse.
We think it might have something to do with Pearson's partner, Jane Roy. Her pet project is the Sudan, an issue that, ironically, David Kilgour quit the Liberals over!
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PostPosted: 12/ 23/ 05 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Make sure you post on the CBC riding board. If they put it on....

I think CPAC was pushing Irene in theat segment...

I saw the liberal sign behind Glen when they were interviewing him outside the home
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PostPosted: 12/ 23/ 05 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a couple of random thoughts on Glen Pearson.

He's made a great deal of political capital from the chattering classes from being involved in an organization called C.A.S.S..

The org got a cheque for $150,000 the day Pearson suddenly decided to change his mind and run for the liberals (at the personal request of Bucky himself).

But in regards to CASS, they have a program that is aparently dedicated to buying people out of slavery in Africa. Less attention is being given to the fact the money is given to slave traders (income support) and more to the "warm and fuzzy" that they freed one of the great unwashed from slavery. This does nothing to curtail the slave trade in Africa, for that matter some of these slavers no doubt have connections to terorist organizations whose main goal is the destruction of western society.

Perhaps some more research into CASS is in order.

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There is some evidence to support the accusation that all this good intent is just funding Islamic terrorism.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/sla_sud.htm

Overview of the Sudan situation:
The government of Sudan has been widely accused of condoning slavery in that country. While there is convincing evidence that some slavery does occur there, the total picture is far more complex. There are at least 4 ways in which large numbers of Sudanese men, women and children lose their freedom:
Some marauding, government-backed militias, who are mainly from the Baggara tribe in western Sudan, attack primarily villages of the Dinka tribe in southern Sudan. These raids are one manifestation of a long-standing religious/racial/language conflict in that country that has been fueling a civil war for the past 40 years. More lives have allegedly been lost in Sudan's civil war than in Bosnia, Rwanda and Kosovo combined. 3
Because of the civil war, tribal animosities in the south have been aggravated. An ancient tribal practice has once more become common: women and children are being abducted by rival tribes. The victims are kidnapped and held until their relatives can scrape up enough ransom money to buy them back.
The Sudan Foundation, a non-Muslim group, claims that "Outside those areas controlled by the Sudanese Government, the old practice of inter-tribal feuding continues. In these raids prisoners are taken, who must then be ransomed. What looks like the purchase of slaves is actually the redemption of prisoners of war." Quoted in Ref. 2
The Sudan Peoples Liberation Army (SPLA), which is fighting the Sudanese government, has raided villagers and forced men and children to work as laborers or porters for the rebel army. Some have been forcibly conscripted into the army.

When money changes hands, It is not necessarily clear whether a victim is being released from slavery, or abduction, or their POW status. Unfortunately, media coverage has not been noted for its accuracy. Some captives being redeemed or ransomed are presented on TV and in the print media as slaves being given their freedom.
Some Christian and other groups have adopted the controversial practice of traveling to Sudan and buying captives' freedom
. This practice does have two positive effects:
It buys the freedom of thousands of slaves, abductees and prisoners of war.
It focuses world attention on the profoundly immoral practices in Sudan.

On the other hand. it has some negative effects:
It increases the profitability of slave traffic and abductions, and thus probably encourages more slavery, kidnapping, and capturing of prisoners of war.
It is an affront to human dignity for a person to be bought and sold as a piece of merchandise.
There may be inadequate follow-up care. The Human Rights Watch reported that in 1999-JAN, 1,050 children and women were freed, but some did not have families waiting to receive them. Many "needy people [were] turned loose in a zone which has not yet recovered from famine."


http://www.mediamonitors.net/espac3.html

Clear SPLA Involvement in "Slave Redemption" Fraud
Miniter and Jacobson made contact with the "Sudanese Relief and Rehabilitation Association" (SRRA), an arm of the SPLA. Miniter's article unambiguously documented the involvement of what he terms "middle level" SPLA/SRRA officials in fraudulently presenting "slaves" to visiting Western would-be "redeemers".
The following is a direct quote from Miniter's article:
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"I witnessed an attempted slave redemption that was unquestionably problematic during a recent visit to Nyamlell, a large settlement about fifty miles south of the Bahr al Arab river, in southern Sudan. Nyamlell has been the location of many slave redemptions covered by the U.S. media. The night before my visit officials from the local branch of the Sudanese Relief and Rehabilitation Association in Lokichokio, Kenya, asked for a meeting with James Jacobson, who had been hoping to redeem the slaves in Nyamlell. After half an hour of small talk the officials got down to business. "How much money are you bringing for slave redemption?"
"Four thousand dollars," Jacobson said.
"Ah, that is very helpful. There are forty slave children to be redeemed."
"Forty children? That would be a hundred dollars each. Don't other groups pay fifty dollars each?"
"No. Everyone pays a hundred."
"What about Christian Solidarity International?"
"Ah, they are different. They buy in much larger quantities."...
"Jacobson exchanged no money, but two mid-level SRRA officials insisted on accompanying him and me to Nyamlell. When we landed on the dirt runway, a local commissioner named Alev Akechak Jok met our plane. He refused to make eye contact with the SRRA officials, and was adamant about meeting privately with Jacobson and me...The commissioner offered tea and an admission: "There are no slaves here for you to buy."....Hadn't the SRRA radioed his village the previous day and learned that there were forty children to be freed? He shook his head no.
"As we returned to the airstrip, the SRRA officials rejoined us. One said that he had just found a trader and ten children to be redeemed. Jok suddenly became angry and pulled me aside: the officials could not hear us over the whirling propeller. "You must leave now!" he demanded. Are the children slaves? I asked. "No," he said, "they are the children of the village." Jok has since been removed from his post, probably in retaliation for his honesty."
Much of the fighting on the government side is done by local militias. Unpaid, their

http://www.domini.org/openbook/sud80210.htm

bounty is as old as war itself - slaves. Sudan's radical Islamic leaders encourage soldiers to take slaves as their compensation, according United Nations investigators and the U.S. State Department. Young women and children are the most valuable war booty. Eibner said old people are beaten and robbed while young men are killed because they cannot be trained into useful, harmless slaves. ``According to the Khartoum's regime ideology of jihad, members of this resistant black African community - be they men, women or children - are infidels, and may be arbitrarily killed, enslaved, looted or otherwise abused,'' Eibner said. The Sudanese government denies condoning slavery, insisting the practice persists because holding prisoners for ransom is a tradition rooted in tribal disputes. No side has a claim on morality in this war. The rebel Sudan People's Liberation Army has been accused of forcibly inducting teen-age boys into its ragtag army. But the southern blacks do not take Arab prisoners for slaves.
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PostPosted: 12/ 23/ 05 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LL, I suggest that you contact the CPC candidate and encourage him to do a press release. Or, send a letter to the editor yourself. Base it on... "If the Lib candidate can't even be trusted in small things like this..."

That is shameful!
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PostPosted: 12/ 23/ 05 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The first 15 minutes were spent interviewing the NDP candidate Irene Mathyssen and the Liberal candidate Glen Pearson. Irene and Glen kept saying how poor London-Fanshawe is, yet the CPAC crew followed Glen throughout Summerside, one of the more expensive and newest suburbs in our riding! Rolling Eyes


If thats the same Summerside I spent a month in this summer working on one of three gigantic stormwater retention ponds - Irene and Glen should be commited. If people are poor its only by buying a 225,000$ "cardboard" house, on a postage stamp lot . They put themselves there!!
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PostPosted: 12/ 24/ 05 2:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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LL, I suggest that you contact the CPC candidate and encourage him to do a press release. Or, send a letter to the editor yourself. Base it on... "If the Lib candidate can't even be trusted in small things like this..."

That is shameful!


Good suggestion, and yes, I did do that.
Mr. Mailer, ever the gentleman, has responded with a comment to the effect of, Thank you for notifying me of this, it is not surprising that the Liberals use window dressing in photo shoots like this.
So he's definitely savvy to their gimmicks!

I hope he keeps it in his file for future reference and that it proves helpful to him one day. I just thought it so unfair that Dan had to face the reality of real-life canvassing with true strangers, and Glen made sure he had a nice, safe result guaranteed. You can bet that if Dan had gotten a nasty reaction in that Timmie's drive thru CPAC would have shown it! Glen Pearson faced no such risk.
Typical of the Liberal mindset, Canadians are dolts to be manipulated and tricked by behind the scenes fakery.

What would CPAC have said if Dan had asked for a nice safe little pre-planted Conservative door to be visited and filmed?

It certainly looks as if CPAC was pulling for the Liberal or NDP to get elected, not the Conservative for SURE.
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The first 15 minutes were spent interviewing the NDP candidate Irene Mathyssen and the Liberal candidate Glen Pearson. Irene and Glen kept saying how poor London-Fanshawe is, yet the CPAC crew followed Glen throughout Summerside, one of the more expensive and newest suburbs in our riding! Rolling Eyes


If thats the same Summerside I spent a month in this summer working on one of three gigantic stormwater retention ponds - Irene and Glen should be commited. If people are poor its only by buying a 225,000$ "cardboard" house, on a postage stamp lot . They put themselves there!!


You got it Mugs. Summerside homes generally range from 189's to 240's and plus.
And GLEN is concerned about child poverty and the plight of the poor?

I'm sure he IS a good compassionate man in his own right, but the optics he chose were dumb juxtaposed with what he was saying about the riding being so working class and impoverished.
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PostPosted: 12/ 24/ 05 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I watched that segment on CPAC. A smart campaign manager will make sure that their candidate is going to a friendly door and all the optics are in place. The only biase I saw was that CPAC pretty well said that the Liberal and NDP candidate were neck and neck. I thought the CPC candidate made a mistake by getting in the Tim Horton`s line up. He gave away a good idea. Guess where the other candidates will be next.
I thought the NDP candidate made a mistake. She was talking to a women in the mall who was complaining about high taxes. NDP like high taxes.
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PostPosted: 12/ 24/ 05 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LondonLady wrote:
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The first 15 minutes were spent interviewing the NDP candidate Irene Mathyssen and the Liberal candidate Glen Pearson. Irene and Glen kept saying how poor London-Fanshawe is, yet the CPAC crew followed Glen throughout Summerside, one of the more expensive and newest suburbs in our riding! Rolling Eyes


If thats the same Summerside I spent a month in this summer working on one of three gigantic stormwater retention ponds - Irene and Glen should be commited. If people are poor its only by buying a 225,000$ "cardboard" house, on a postage stamp lot . They put themselves there!!


You got it Mugs. Summerside homes generally range from 189's to 240's and plus.
And GLEN is concerned about child poverty and the plight of the poor?

I'm sure he IS a good compassionate man in his own right, but the optics he chose were dumb juxtaposed with what he was saying about the riding being so working class and impoverished.


Glen kept talking about the Sudan. About building homes there. That in itself was enough for me to question his motives for wanting office
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LondonLady wrote:
Mugs wrote:
The first 15 minutes were spent interviewing the NDP candidate Irene Mathyssen and the Liberal candidate Glen Pearson. Irene and Glen kept saying how poor London-Fanshawe is, yet the CPAC crew followed Glen throughout Summerside, one of the more expensive and newest suburbs in our riding! Rolling Eyes


If thats the same Summerside I spent a month in this summer working on one of three gigantic stormwater retention ponds - Irene and Glen should be commited. If people are poor its only by buying a 225,000$ "cardboard" house, on a postage stamp lot . They put themselves there!!


You got it Mugs. Summerside homes generally range from 189's to 240's and plus.
And GLEN is concerned about child poverty and the plight of the poor?

I'm sure he IS a good compassionate man in his own right, but the optics he chose were dumb juxtaposed with what he was saying about the riding being so working class and impoverished.


Glen kept talking about the Sudan. About building homes there. That in itself was enough for me to question his motives for wanting office


Glen's weakness is his "liberal" mindset of the "whitemans burden".

Throw some loaded questions at him during the all candidates about foreign aid.

Good example:

"Sir, if you where the minister in charge of international aid, what connections will you have to sever so as not to be in conflict of interest?"

or

"Regarding foriegn aid, do you believe the government has any business sending millions of dollars to China a country that has an active and costly space program and a military second only to the US?"

or

"Sir, I understand you have been active in raising awaeness of the situation in Sudan. Would you favour a UN resolution to send troops to Sudan to forcably breakup the slave trade there?"
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PostPosted: 12/ 25/ 05 1:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Mugs wrote:
The first 15 minutes were spent interviewing the NDP candidate Irene Mathyssen and the Liberal candidate Glen Pearson. Irene and Glen kept saying how poor London-Fanshawe is, yet the CPAC crew followed Glen throughout Summerside, one of the more expensive and newest suburbs in our riding! Rolling Eyes


If thats the same Summerside I spent a month in this summer working on one of three gigantic stormwater retention ponds - Irene and Glen should be commited. If people are poor its only by buying a 225,000$ "cardboard" house, on a postage stamp lot . They put themselves there!!


You got it Mugs. Summerside homes generally range from 189's to 240's and plus.
And GLEN is concerned about child poverty and the plight of the poor?

I'm sure he IS a good compassionate man in his own right, but the optics he chose were dumb juxtaposed with what he was saying about the riding being so working class and impoverished.


Glen kept talking about the Sudan. About building homes there. That in itself was enough for me to question his motives for wanting office


Glen's wife, Jane Roy, is deeply concerned about the slave trade in the Sudan, and it is her heart and soul to rescue and redeem these people. That's fine. I realize the contentiousness of the issue, some say it is actually worsening the problem.

The thing I wonder is, if the Sudan is their issue, and I have no doubt that they are totally and completely sincere and committed to this, why run for the Liberals? Didn't David Kilgour quit the Liberals in disgust over their total inaction in the Sudan??

What did Martin have to promise Glen to get him to run?
And worse-is Glen that naive to believe Martin will actually honor promises to him in that regard when Martin was ready to let Kilgour leave the party for the very reason of Liberal inaction in the Sudan?
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