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 Posted: 11/ 03/ 05 7:14 pm Post subject: Catholic child expelled for outing prochoice teacher |
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SACRAMENTO, November 2, 2005 (LifeSiteNews.com) - A 15-year-old girl at a Catholic school who was responsible for alerting her bishop to the presence of a pro-abortion activist teacher on staff at her school has been expelled from the school. Katelyn Sills, was expelled from Loretto High School in Sacramento last week, two weeks after the teacher, who was found to be an abortion clinic escort, was dismissed at the behest of the local Bishop William Weigand. (see LifeSiteNews.com coverage: http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2005/nov/05110110.html )
Katelyn informed her mother after she recognized Marie Bain, one of the teachers at Loretto, as an escort at a Planned Parenthood abortuary where Katelyn and her family had regularly taken part in pro-life rallies. After unsuccessful attempts to quietly have the school address the situation of Mrs. Bain, Katelyn's mother Wynette Sills sent photos of Bain escorting women into the abortion center to Bishop Weigand.
KATELYN EXPELLED AFTER MOTHER BANNED FROM CAMPUS
LifeSiteNews.com contacted Edward Sills, Katelyn's father who noted that although the family is not yet ready to speak to the media, a press release and comments have been issued on Katelyn's website. On the website, http://standupandspeakout.blogspot.com/ , Katelyn reports that: "As of Saturday, October 29th, I was given official notice by express mail that I am expelled from Loretto High School. This was given completely without forewarning, without a meeting, and without a chance to say goodbye. My family is now seeking legal advice, and more details will follow." Prior to her expulsion, she reported that "Loretto's administration has banned my mother from campus since October 16th."
SCHOOL ALLEGES "ATTACKS"
In a short interview with LifeSiteNews.com, Loretto President Sr. Helen Timothy said she could not comment on the matter but did say she would fax a press release from the school. That press release, dated, October 28 - a day before Katelyn said she received notice of her expulsion - says of the expulsion that it was a "last resort" and accused the Sills family of "an escalating series of public attacks made against Loretto". The release says that "these attacks have included taunts, threats and verbal abuse directed against members of our school community, as well as a mass e-mail campaign slandering the school's reputation as a Catholic institution."
In the press release on her website, Katelyn's family responds to the school release saying, "Coming in the middle of fall term, this dismissal is most unfair and undeserved. What is worse, however, is the administration's outrageous charges that our family has engaged in 'threats', 'abuse', and other 'malicious' behavior toward members of the Loretto community. These charges are categorically false and defamatory. In actual fact, our family has at all times acted respectfully in attempting to resolve a difficult situation for the good of all members of the Loretto community, continuously seeking reconciliation."
DIOCESE UNABLE TO INTERVENE UNDER CANON LAW
The diocese says it is unable to act on the matter of Katelyn's expulsion. Rev. Charles S. McDermott, S.T.D. Chancellor and Vicar Episcopal for Theological Affairs for the Diocese of Sacramento, explained to LifeSiteNews.com that the school is run by an order of nuns popularly known as the Loretto Sisters. Rev. McDermott described the order as "A religious institute in the church which is of pontifical right," explaining that "they are subject in their internal affairs directly to the Holy See and not to the local bishop."
In the matter of the pro-abortion teacher the bishop exercised special powers reserved to him in canon (church) law permitting him to intervene in cases of faith and morals, explained the diocesan Chancellor.
Rev. McDermott did however provide key information shedding light on the disagreement between the family and the school. He told LifeSiteNews.com that "The mother approached Loretto high school about it quite quietly, as far as I understand, and asked them to respond to the situation." The school failed to act, and the matter was "eventually" brought to the attention of Bishop Weigand.
SCHOOL ADMINISTRATION DISAGREED WITH BISHOP BUT DID FOLLOW DIRECTION
Rev. McDermott notes that when the Bishop raised the issue with Sr. Timothy and Principal Sr. Barbara Nelson, they "did not agree entirely with our position." However, Rev. McDermott added that Sr. Timothy "quite correctly and honorably followed the bishop's suggestion and removed Mrs. Bain, the person in question, from employment."
The only means to address the grievance, says Rev. McDermott, is internally within the order of the Loretto Sisters, known formally as the Institute of the Blessed Virgin Mary (IBVM). Recourse to the Provincial Superior of the Loretto Sisters, who is in charge of the IBVM in the United States may be undertaken and beyond that to the General Superior of the order in Rome.
To respectfully express your concerns:
Sr. Helen Timothy
President Loretto High School
htimothy@loretto.net
(916) 482-7793 ext. 104
IBVM Provincial Superior
Rosemary Lynch
630-665-3814
rlynch@ibvm.org
As seen at http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2005/nov/05110208.html
| Quote: | | Katelyn informed her mother after she recognized Marie Bain, one of the teachers at Loretto, as an escort at a Planned Parenthood abortuary where Katelyn and her family had regularly taken part in pro-life rallies. After unsuccessful attempts to quietly have the school address the situation of Mrs. Bain, Katelyn's mother Wynette Sills sent photos of Bain escorting women into the abortion center to Bishop Weigand. |
Now honestly what is wrong with a child conversing with their parent on this matter? Don't we want parents and children to communicate?
I don't know how the school would describe the "unsuccessful attempts to quietly have the school address the situation" or what the specific expectations she held were but even IF the mother dealt with it inappropriate it should not have held such a dramatic consequence for a teen.
| Quote: | The release says that "these attacks have included taunts, threats and verbal abuse directed against members of our school community, as well as a mass e-mail campaign slandering the school's reputation as a Catholic institution."
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I would not support anything that was abusive or threatening but I'd be interested in specific examples. If simply raising the question of why a RC institution would make allowances for a clinic escort to offer classroom instruction to the children of faithful Catholics constitutes a "threat" or "abuse" then that is unfair. If the family went beyond that and made people feel unsafe then I think it holds merit.
And they deserve to have their validity as a RC institution and their reputation questioned when they employ a clinic escort as an instructor.
I would be aghast to learn that someone who was not only prochoice but was an enabler of abortion was allowed to have unsupervised access to my children. I would remove my daughter or son without delay.
[/quote]the school is run by an order of nuns popularly known as the Loretto Sisters. | Quote: |
Good grief prochoice nuns????????????????????????/ 
Ghratian or Theresa, before I write a letter can you give me some insights?
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| Posted: 11/ 04/ 05 10:00 am Post subject: Re: Catholic child expelled for outing prochoice teacher |
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| Hailey wrote: |
Gratian or Theresa, before I write a letter can you give me some insights?
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Yes. I would copy the letter to the Pontifical Council for the Family (at the Vatican), the Pontifical Council for Christian Unity as well as the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. Let them know that as a non-Catholic Christian you nevertheless respected the Church for its pro-life stance, that you have siblings who converted, that you yourself are open to finding out more about the Church, but that if this is completely scandalous and foreign to your Christian teaching and that you hope this is not Catholic practice.
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| Hailey Joined: 03 Jul 2004 Total posts: 19655 Location: Edmonton Gender: Female
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| Posted: 11/ 04/ 05 10:05 am Post subject: |
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| Can someone explain anything to me about this order though? Are they exceptionally liberal? |
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I cannot top Gratiens advice, but I can add that I am not surprised at pro choice nuns. The left leaning liberals have left their mark on the church no doubt about it. I hear rumblings that the church will remove her support from these far left "uncatholic" catholic institutions .
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| Hailey wrote: | | Can someone explain anything to me about this order though? Are they exceptionally liberal? |
All depends.
It is not surprising that this happened, though.
Many, many, "active", i.e., non-contemplative, orders of sisters have become havens of feminism and new age whacko "spirituality".
Because they canonically operate independently of dioceses, they have been able to avoid discipline that might have otherwise be applied to them.
It's the same reason that good old Notre Dame University, run by the Brothers and Fathers of the Holy Cross, are able to get away with teaching that is clearly contrary to the magisterium of the Catholic Church.
The only thing that would "hit" or influence these orders is a challenge to their bank account...but because they are living off the foundations created by their faithful predecessors, they regard themselves as practically immune and autonomous.
As in this case, it generally takes the extent of "I dare ya" to get them to act.
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| piddingworth wrote: | | Because they canonically operate independently of dioceses, they have been able to avoid discipline that might have otherwise be applied to them. |
Technically, this does not fall under the internal ordering of the religious order since the girl is not part of the religious institute. Rather, she attends a school administered by the religious institute. Thus the local ordinary [Bishop, Vicar General, Episcopal Vicar(s)] has the power to act.
Can. 801 Religious institutes whose proper mission is education, retaining their mission faithfully, are also to strive to devote themselves to Catholic education through their schools, established with the consent of the diocesan bishop.
Can. 806 §1. The diocesan bishop has the right to watch over and visit the Catholic schools in his territory, even those which members of religious institutes have founded or direct. He also issues prescripts which pertain to the general regulation of Catholic schools; these prescripts are valid also for schools which these religious direct, without prejudice, however, to their autonomy regarding the internal direction of their schools.
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| Posted: 11/ 04/ 05 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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| piddingworth wrote: |
It's the same reason that good old Notre Dame University, run by the Brothers and Fathers of the Holy Cross, are able to get away with teaching that is clearly contrary to the magisterium of the Catholic Church.
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It's interesting you brought up ND. My father's high school friend was the president there for 18 years. He just stepped down this past summer. While I know he is a priest and holds doctorates in divinity and Christian ethics, I did raise an eyebrow when I heard that Bill Clinton spoke there a few years ago at commencement. |
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