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Travis Chase makes a public statement on the election.

Postby travischase » 10/ 22/ 05 5:33 am

I, Travis Chase, President of the Calgary Fort Constituency Association for the Alberta Alliance party, and former candidate for the 2004 provincial election, wish to state for the official record, that I officially support Marilyn Burns for leader of the Alberta Alliance party.

I hearby disavow myself from the campaign of David Crutcher, and Craig Chandler.
Early in the campaign, I and my family signed David Crutcher's nomination papers and I agreed to even help him stuff some envelopes, I fufilled that, as I am a man of my word.

While I have respect for David Crutcher as he helped me out immensly during the provincial election campaign, and respect for Craig Chandler. I do not belive Craig and the PGIB have the best intentions that I can support for the party. I also do not belive that with the influence the PGIB exerts he can be a truly impartial leader needed to run the Alberta Alliance without having his strings pulled. I also do not share David's ad-hoc support for separation as mentioned in the October 18, 2005 debate. I belive such policies should be decided and debated by the membership in a policy convention.

I urge all Alberta Alliance members who wish to vote to consider their choice carefully.

Sincerly
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Re: Travis Chase makes a public statement on the election.

Postby Jodi Tzian » 10/ 22/ 05 10:59 am

travischase wrote:I, Travis Chase, President of the Calgary Fort Constituency Association for the Alberta Alliance party, and former candidate for the 2004 provincial election, wish to state for the official record, that I officially support Marilyn Burns for leader of the Alberta Alliance party.
Sincerly
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Crutcher's been OK but his campaign team has been offensive. And to my shock and dismay, Hinman hasn't conducted himself much better. Klop's been invisible. Looks like Marilyn's my choice too.
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Postby Smaug » 10/ 22/ 05 12:00 pm

Did Crutcher publicly support separation?


Who or what is PGIB?
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Travis Chase = Belinda Stronach

Postby Brock Kerns » 10/ 22/ 05 1:37 pm

Travis,

I am in the Crutcher office as we speak and as an Alberta Progressive Conservative have brought people with me.

Why? You attacked the Progressive Group for Independent Businesss (PGIB) and we are also members. Just like Alderman Ric McIver, MLA Art Johnston and MP Rob Anders. The key word in PGIB is the word "Independent" and David would not be serving anyone but his members.

PGIB has members that belong to the Social Credit Party, Alberta Progressive Conservative Party, Alberta Alliance, Seperation Party of Alberta, Freedom Party of Ontario, Libertarian Party, BC Liberals and the federal Conservative Party.

You sould be encouraging coalition building, not alienating Calgary's largest business organization?

Learn from people. Paul Martin won goverenment with help from the Canadian Federation of Independent Business (CFIB) and Stephen Harper won with help from the National Citizens Coalition (NCC) as he was the former President. We need Coalition builders and the business community is crucial to our success. Crutcher has raised some serious money through PGIB.

Anyways, you are entitled to your opinion, but the way you did this was unethical. According to Craig you came to the office yesterday and ate the campaign food and had crucial campaign information revealed to you.

Because of the aforementioned you lack class and will be seen by many as a spy. You will never be trusted.

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Postby Brock Kerns » 10/ 22/ 05 1:38 pm

Smaug wrote:Did Crutcher publicly support separation?


Who or what is PGIB?


The Progressive Group for Independent Business (PGIB)
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Re: Travis Chase makes a public statement on the election.

Postby Brock Kerns » 10/ 22/ 05 1:39 pm

Jodi Tzian wrote:
travischase wrote:I, Travis Chase, President of the Calgary Fort Constituency Association for the Alberta Alliance party, and former candidate for the 2004 provincial election, wish to state for the official record, that I officially support Marilyn Burns for leader of the Alberta Alliance party.
Sincerly
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Crutcher's been OK but his campaign team has been offensive. And to my shock and dismay, Hinman hasn't conducted himself much better. Klop's been invisible. Looks like Marilyn's my choice too.


Crutchers campaign teram has done nothing but point out rigging and irregualrities etc.. The Truth hurts and is sometimes offensive.
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Postby Angleland » 10/ 22/ 05 2:10 pm

I guess Craig Chandler won't be running for the Alberta PC Leadership. Craig does not mind the negative comments from what I know. Just spell his name correctly.
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Postby HSMom » 10/ 22/ 05 2:16 pm

Geeee these sound like the words of a truly desperate man!!!

Boy would I love to be a fly on the wall of the Chandler Campaign today!!
Seems they have nothing better to do than sit on the computer and "fight fires" :x

I am in the Crutcher office as we speak and as an Alberta Progressive Conservative have brought people with me
Why? You attacked the Progressive Group for Independent Businesss (PGIB) and we are also members. Just like Alderman Ric McIver, MLA Art Johnston and MP Rob Anders. The key word in PGIB is the
word "Independent" and David would not be serving anyone but his members.



Funny!! I thought David Crutcher was running for the leader of the Alberta Alliance Party. One thing blows up and Chandler's campaign office is full of Alberta PC's. Interesting how that works.

You talk about how all these people have an opinion on this. But you have not told us what David Crutcher thinks. Does David have an opinion or do all these other people do all the talking for him?? Just wondering.
Looks like the Chandler Campaign is unraveling as we speak!!!

Whereas Travis has done what his heart tells him is the right thing Chandler's henchmen are pulling out scary tactics and defaming Travis's charachter. What kind of an organization did you say PGIB was again??
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Postby Psycho » 10/ 22/ 05 3:09 pm

Brock Kerns wrote:Travis,

I am in the Crutcher office as we speak and as an Alberta Progressive Conservative have brought people with me.


:shock:

The Alberta PC's want Crutcher to win... :-k

Maybe that should be mentioned in the next demon dialer... :lol:
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Postby Psycho » 10/ 22/ 05 4:22 pm

Travis Chase wrote:
"I hearby disavow myself from the campaign of David Crutcher, and Craig Chandler."

Early in the campaign, I and my family signed David Crutcher's nomination papers and I agreed to even help him stuff some envelopes, I fufilled that, as I am a man of my word.

While I have respect for David Crutcher as he helped me out immensly during the provincial election campaign, and respect for Craig Chandler. I do not belive Craig and the PGIB have the best intentions that I can support for the party. I also do not belive that with the influence the PGIB exerts he can be a truly impartial leader needed to run the Alberta Alliance without having his strings pulled.



Let me see if I have this right?

Travis initially suported Crutcher; he signed his nomination papers and volunteered to help stuff envelopes. While sitting down with the campaign team stuffing envelopes, Travis was privy to the converstations by key Crutcher campaign workers.

Because of what he heard, Travis states he does "not belive Craig and the PGIB have the best intentions that I can support for the party. I also do not belive that with the influence the PGIB exerts he can be a truly impartial leader needed to run the Alberta Alliance without having his strings pulled."

:-k

That has got to hurt... :hangem:
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Postby Brock Kerns » 10/ 22/ 05 11:54 pm

Angleland wrote:I guess Craig Chandler won't be running for the Alberta PC Leadership. Craig does not mind the negative comments from what I know. Just spell his name correctly.


Heck Chandler thinks Asshole is a compliment.

I have told him that he should have ran, but he thinks he is too young to run seriously.
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Postby Psycho » 10/ 23/ 05 12:39 am

Brock Kerns wrote:
Angleland wrote:I guess Craig Chandler won't be running for the Alberta PC Leadership.


I have told him that he should have ran, but he thinks he is too young to run seriously.


:shock:

Are you saying Craig was a joke when he ran as a Reform candidate 12 years ago??? :-k

:D
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Postby Brock Kerns » 10/ 23/ 05 2:10 am

Psycho wrote:
Brock Kerns wrote:
Angleland wrote:I guess Craig Chandler won't be running for the Alberta PC Leadership.


I have told him that he should have ran, but he thinks he is too young to run seriously.


:shock:

Are you saying Craig was a joke when he ran as a Reform candidate 12 years ago??? :-k

:D


No he was an asset to the Reform Party and needed in that area.

However, Chandler is like a fine wine, he get's better with age.
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Craig B. Chandler Responds To Travis Chase

Postby Craig B. Chandler » 10/ 23/ 05 2:53 am

travischase wrote:I, Travis Chase, President of the Calgary Fort Constituency Association for the Alberta Alliance party, and former candidate for the 2004 provincial election, wish to state for the official record, that I officially support Marilyn Burns for leader of the Alberta Alliance party.

I hearby disavow myself from the campaign of David Crutcher, and Craig Chandler.
Early in the campaign, I and my family signed David Crutcher's nomination papers and I agreed to even help him stuff some envelopes, I fufilled that, as I am a man of my word.

While I have respect for David Crutcher as he helped me out immensly during the provincial election campaign, and respect for Craig Chandler. I do not belive Craig and the PGIB have the best intentions that I can support for the party. I also do not belive that with the influence the PGIB exerts he can be a truly impartial leader needed to run the Alberta Alliance without having his strings pulled. I also do not share David's ad-hoc support for separation as mentioned in the October 18, 2005 debate. I belive such policies should be decided and debated by the membership in a policy convention.

I urge all Alberta Alliance members who wish to vote to consider their choice carefully.

Sincerly
Travis P. Chase


WITHOUT PREJUDICE
Saturday, October 22, 2005

To: Travis Chase
Re: Online Campaign Withdrawal Posting
Bcc: Legal Counsel

Travis,

I write this letter in my official capacity as the Campaign Manager for David Crutcher. I also write to you rather surprised.

I am surprised because of what was pointed out to me today by a friend. What was pointed out to me was a post regarding your decision to support Marilyn Burns.

While it is your right to support whom you wish, the way you did it was obviously for attention and done in effort to hurt the David Crutcher Campaign.

You were fully aware before arriving here at the PGIB National office on Friday, October 21st that you were going to make a public comment about leaving the David Crutcher Campaign. Yet, we fed you and shared confidential numbers with you relating to our campaign.

You claim that you have "...respect for David Crutcher as he helped me out immensely during the provincial election campaign" and that you have "respect" for me. Yet you did not even have the common courtesy of calling David and inform him that you were leaving his team and would be making it very public? This is how you re-pay someone that has helped you immensely? The least you could have done is call David or myself and inform us that you would be leaving. I would hate to see how you would treat people that you do not respect.

As a Calgarian you are obviously aware that PGIB is a serious campaign machine. Thus, your comment of "...with the influence the PGIB exerts" was mentioned in your public post. However, you are very young and new to politics and may not be aware that coalition building is what makes the difference for parties. Having the support of one organization or another does not mean that particular group with have any undue influence.

A perfect example is Stephen Harper leader of the Conservative Party of Canada. Mr. Harper was the President of the National Citizens Coalition (NCC) and during the leadership race in the Canadian Alliance his opponents warned that the NCC would soon run the party and that Harper would be nothing but an NCC puppet. The fear mongering was just that, fear and Stephen has not been a puppet of any organization and successfully united the federal Progressive Conservative Party of Canada and the former Canadian Alliance into one party. The NCC supported Stephen Harper because he served them well and they were showing their appreciation.

The same can be said for how David Crutcher has served the PGIB well as the Fundraising Chairman for the organization. We have been showing our appreciation for his good service. The key word in the Progressive Group for Independent Business (PGIB) is the word "Independent". As people like Alderman Ric McIver, former MLA Jon Lord, MP Rob Anders, MLA Art Johnston and many others in the City of Calgary can all clearly testify, PGIB expects nothing in return other then good government. To insinuate that David Crutcher could not be an impartial leader is also an odd comment. All leaders must have a bias or they are no leaders at all, they are fence sitters or LIEberals. Of course Mr. Crutcher as a business owner would favour less government, lower taxes and political accountability over unions, high spending and government graft. We do not want impartial leaders.

Even former Premier Mike Harris and current Conservative Party of Canada leader have some good comments to say about PGIB see http://www.pgib.ca/lobbying/testimonials.htm

"I encourage you to join the PGIB is you have not already and demand a restructuring of the public sector to both cut costs and improve services. It is time to go forward with a common-sense plan to unleash the power of the marketplace."
Mike Harris (Former Premier of Ontario)
January 1994
PGIB Rally
Hamilton, Ontario

"If you want cocktails join the Group downtown. If you want something done join the PGIB."
Stephen Harper (Current leader of the Conservative Party of Canada)
April 1999
PGIB National Convention
Calgary, Alberta

Also, you claim that you do not favour "...David's ad-hoc support for separation as mentioned in the October 18, 2005 debate. I believe such policies should be decided and debated by the membership in a policy convention".

You were not at this debate and did not clarify with David or anyone on our campaign team on what was said. You have based your decision on hearsay and again have showed no respect for someone has helped you "immensely". We taped the entire debate in Edmonton (ask Paul Hinman because he saw the tape recorder right in front of him). Here is David's exact quote on this topic from our tapes: "If the federal Conservative Party under Stephen Harper does not win the next election, which will be in the next six months and it does not appear that they will, I will consult the members and then proudly lead this party in to a new country, the Republic of Alberta". It appears that the members will be consulted, but again no courtesy call to clarify.

Lastly, You urge "...all Alberta Alliance members who wish to vote to consider their choice carefully". We could not agree with you more as it is very obvious that this was a planned and calculated campaign strategy and one that is reminiscent of Beliinda Stronach's move to the Liberals. Belinda Stronach knew she was leaving on the Monday morning, but spent the weekend in Ottawa in training sessions getting valuable information. Travis, you had access to lists and we shared privilege information.

This is where the problem lies. I have been in discussion with Marilyn Burns tonight who 'claimed' to be unaware of the letter, but she understood clearly where we were going from in relation to information. She said "Just like in any law firm when you leave a firm to go to another any proprietary information stays with that firm".

All we request is that you write me back with a promise that you will not share any information that you were privy to in this office. If you "respect" us as you claim to then this should not be a problem for you. However, If this information does get out, irregardless if we have our assurances , we will have no choice but to take legal action.

Again, you have the right to choose where you park your vote and in politics people come and go. Today we lost you but gained the candidate that ran in Lethbridge, Merle Terlisky. We also gained Don Kramer who paid for Marilyn Burns first mailout and is on the Stony Plain Constituency Association Board. Mr. Kramer felt that Marilyn is not Leader material and he should know because he has worked with her very closely. Don commented that David "...is bold enough to take action, is strong and willing to listen". We agree!

Disappointed that you would treat a friend who has helped you out "immensely" and someone you"respect" in this manner. Disappointed that we did not even receive a courtesy call. What you should have learned from Belinda Stronach is what not to do, she was not supposed to be a role model for any self proclaimed conservative.

Disappointed,
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