The Great Global Warming Swindle

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Postby backhoe » 03/ 11/ 07 10:05 am

<P>Here it is on youtube broken up into 10 minute chunks... <br>
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6IPHmJWmDk" target="_blank">The Great Global Warming Swindle 1/8</a><br>You'll notice the other segments in the right sidebar.<P>
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Postby Angleland » 03/ 11/ 07 10:23 am

Dave McGuinty's dreams of easy money for his owners may be going up in greenhouse gases.
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Postby littleharbour » 03/ 12/ 07 6:14 pm

I just finished watching the entire documentary. The entire House of Commons should be forced to sit, gagged and with their eyes pried open, to watch this show in its entirety. And Stephen Harper should be made to explain why he suddenly reversed years of contempt for Kyoto on the basis of a couple of opinion polls, instead of defending the truth and bringing forward scientists who could refute the UN sponsored fraud. If the CPC was half as clever as the guys who put together this documentary, they could have put together a compelling ad campaign which would have turned this issue around in the eyes of the voters. But that would have taken too much work. How much easier to just waste billions of tax dollars pretending you have suddenly become enlightened. If any MP dares to challenge the accepted widom on the GW crowd, Harper will have him or her kneecapped for daring to state the truth. This is what has become of conservatism in Canada. :x
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Postby Fabulous Fred » 03/ 12/ 07 6:16 pm

littleharbour wrote:I just finished watching the entire documentary. The entire House of Commons should be forced to sit, gagged and with their eyes pried open, to watch this show in its entirety. And Stephen Harper should be made to explain why he suddenly reversed years of contempt for Kyoto on the basis of a couple of opinion polls, instead of defending the truth and bringing forward scientists who could refute the UN sponsored fraud. If the CPC was half as clever as the guys who put together this documentary, they could have put together a compelling ad campaign which would have turned this issue around in the eyes of the voters. But that would have taken too much work. How much easier to just waste billions of tax dollars pretending you have suddenly become enlightened. If any MP dares to challenge the accepted widom on the GW crowd, Harper will have him or her kneecapped for daring to state the truth. This is what has become of conservatism in Canada. :x


You are so right! I think we should all e-mail the link along with a letter to our MP's. If they don't watch it their staff certainly can.
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Postby Fabulous Fred » 03/ 12/ 07 6:26 pm

J.B. Stone wrote:http://www.freedominion.ca/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=77349

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That is a funny story! :lol: :lol:
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Postby J.B. Stone » 03/ 12/ 07 6:31 pm

March 12, 2007

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Gore's Earth Concert, Live From the Capitol?

Al Gore is comin' home -- and he wants a big gig on the Hill.

Yes, the former vice president wants to stage a global-warming concert at the Capitol. I can't believe it'll come off, but if it does, I want a ticket. Look at some of the bands they have lined up for this thing (at liveearth.org), including the Red Hot Chili Peppers, Snoop Dogg and Bon Jovi. Even I know these guys are pretty cool. Get it? Pretty cool.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) and Sen. Olympia Snowe (R-Maine) have introduced a resolution to use the Capitol grounds as a site for the huge, multi-venue global-warming concert on July 7.

The Live Earth concert will take place on seven continents and reach more than 2 billion people, according to its promoters. One of the groups involved is the Alliance for Climate Protection, founded by, among others, … wait for it … Al Gore.

Anyway, I hope this comes off. The resolution was referred to the Senate Rules and Administration Committee, which means Republicans can block it, even though Snowe is a co-sponsor.

FYI: The Alliance for Climate Protection includes not only Gore but also former EPA Administrator Carol Browner, Brent Scowcroft, who was Bush 41's national security adviser, and a bunch of other very important people. And I can personally vouch to the Senate that they'll leave the Capitol grounds just the way they found them. I swear they will.

Still more Gore: He's testifying before the House Energy and Commerce Committee on March 21, and Rep. Eliot L. Engel (D-N.Y.) is trying to get the House to approve a resolution praising Gore for his work on global warming. Engel circulated a "Dear Colleague" letter last week seeking co-sponsors for the measure, which also salutes the 2000 Democratic presidential nominee on the Oscar for his global warming documentary, "An Inconvenient Truth."

So far, Engel has 55 co-sponsors for his resolution, and he's talking to Democratic leaders to mark it up before Gore testifies.

The Limbaugh Name Lives On

Derailed in the last Congress, a bill was approved by the Senate Friday to name a federal courthouse in Cape Girardeau, Mo., after Rush Hudson Limbaugh Sr., grandfather of the conservative radio host.

The elder Limbaugh, who held senior posts in the American Bar Association, was a legend in Cape Girardeau, practicing law for nearly 80 years until his death in 1996 at 104. In the 1950s, he also served as a special envoy to India.

The Limbaugh bill, which was introduced by Rep. Jo Ann Emerson (R-Mo.) with bipartisan support from the Missouri congressional delegation, now goes to President Bush for his approval.

Pander of the Week

This week's Pander goes to Rep. Joe Baca (D-Calif.).

As chairman of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus, he's been in the news lately for calling Rep. Loretta Sanchez (D-Calif.) the "w" word, but he's getting the Pander for something else entirely -- his continued efforts to publicly glorify Tiger Woods.

On Wednesday, Baca introduced a resolution to award a Congressional Gold Medal to Tiger "in recognition of his service to the nation in promoting excellence and good sportsmanship, and in breaking barriers with grace and dignity by showing that golf is a sport for all people."

And it's, by far, not the first. Baca introduced the same measure in the 109th Congress, the 108th Congress, the 107th Congress and the 106th Congress. Yes, for five Congresses in a row, Joe Baca has asked that a Congressional Gold Medal be awarded to Tiger Woods.

In addition, Baca also introduced "Sense of the House" resolutions honoring the golfer.

The Congressional Gold Medal is the highest civilian award that Congress can bestow. Early honorees were military officers -- George Washington, John Paul Jones and Ulysses S. Grant, among others.

More recently, a variety of civilians, including many athletes, have received the award: Howard Hughes (Look it up; I couldn't believe it myself), Robert Frost, Bob Hope, Ronald and Nancy Reagan, Roberto Clemente, John Wayne, Joe Louis, Louis L'Amour (wow), Harry Chapin (?), Jesse Owens, Colin Powell, Mother Teresa, Martin Luther King Jr. and Coretta Scott King, Pope John Paul II, Gerald and Betty Ford, Jackie Robinson, Nelson Mandela, Rosa Parks, Charles Schulz, Tony Blair and Byron Nelson (overrated).

So overall, Tiger could rate one. But let's at least wait to see if he breaks Jack Nicklaus' record for winning major tournaments, Mr. Baca, unless you want to give Jack one first.

So there you have it. Joe Baca wins the Pander of the Week. Congratulations, Mr. Baca.
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Postby NorthOf45 » 03/ 12/ 07 7:58 pm

Cod Father wrote:Let's all write the CBC now and try and get them to air it on the Passionate Eye or some other show.


I was thinking the exact same thing. I mean, they have no problem airing conspiracy shows about 9-11. So why not air a show that runs counter to Kyoto and global warming? Mind you, this one has merit.
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Postby Faramir » 03/ 13/ 07 1:44 am

hunterofvoters wrote:Suzuki already has his climate deniers working over time to discredit the documentary, so it must be on track.

http://climatedenial.org/2007/03/09/the ... r-swindle/


All they do is try to defame the people interviewed on the show (like Al Gore has an unblemished character). But they do not refute the claims - such as what of the fact CO2 appears to lag temperature increases?
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Postby Little Big Man » 03/ 13/ 07 3:24 am

Already on my iPod. Here's how:

1. Find the video on youtube.com (it's in 8 parts)
2. Save each part to your hard disk using youtubex.com
3. Convert each part to .mp4 format using the program called "Any Video Converter".
4. Add the .mp4 files to your list of videos in iTunes.
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Postby styky » 03/ 13/ 07 2:06 pm

On a side note, the narrator that does this film voice over sounded so familiar and then it hit me. It sounds like the voice from Horton Hears a Who........kind of approriate don't ya think
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Postby rwebb » 03/ 13/ 07 9:30 pm

Faramir wrote:
hunterofvoters wrote:Suzuki already has his climate deniers working over time to discredit the documentary, so it must be on track.
http://climatedenial.org/2007/03/09/the ... r-swindle/

All they do is try to defame the people interviewed on the show (like Al Gore has an unblemished character). But they do not refute the claims - such as what of the fact CO2 appears to lag temperature increases?

Most of the claims made have already been refuted many times over, and a few minutes on Google is all it takes to track them down. Still, I don't expect any of the ideologues here to bother, so here's an article to start you off:
The Great Global Warming Swindle, was based on graphs that were distorted, mislabelled or just plain wrong. The graphs were nevertheless used to attack the credibility and honesty of climate scientists.

A graph central to the programme's thesis, purporting to show variations in global temperatures over the past century, claimed to show that global warming was not linked with industrial emissions of carbon dioxide. Yet the graph was not what it seemed.

Other graphs used out-of-date information or data that was shown some years ago to be wrong. Yet the programme makers claimed the graphs demonstrated that orthodox climate science was a conspiratorial "lie" foisted on the public.
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The programme-makers labelled the source of the world temperature data as "Nasa" but when we inquired about where we could find this information, we received an email through Wag TV's PR consultant saying that the graph was drawn from a 1998 diagram published in an obscure journal called Medical Sentinel. ...
This diagram was itself based on long out-of-date information on terrestrial temperatures compiled by Nasa scientists.

However, crucially, the axis along the bottom of the graph has been distorted in the C4 version of the graph, which made it look like the information was up-to-date when in fact the data ended in the early 1980s.

Mr Durkin [the director] admitted that his graphics team had extended the time axis along the bottom of the graph to the year 2000. "There was a fluff there," he said.

If Mr Durkin had gone directly to the Nasa website he could have got the most up-to-date data. This would have demonstrated that the amount of global warming since 1975, as monitored by terrestrial weather stations around the world, has been greater than that between 1900 and 1940 - although that would have undermined his argument.
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Postby ccurrie » 03/ 13/ 07 10:26 pm

If Mr Durkin had gone directly to the Nasa website he could have got the most up-to-date data. This would have demonstrated that the amount of global warming since 1975, as monitored by terrestrial weather stations around the world, has been greater than that between 1900 and 1940 - although that would have undermined his argument.


Err... no it wouldn't have made any difference at all.

The main arguments, that CO2 is a product and not a cause of warmer temperatures; that human activity accounts for a minscule portion of the so-called "greenhouse gasses"; and that global temperatures are primarily influenced by the sun all remain valid, and would remain valid if the rise over the past 40 years were double what it was.
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Postby Please Free Canada » 03/ 13/ 07 10:38 pm

I just want to know how all those SUVs got onto the other planets in our Solar System to cause the similar warming trend that we are experiencing.
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Postby rwebb » 03/ 13/ 07 10:52 pm

ccurrie wrote:Err... no it wouldn't have made any difference at all.

Then why was the graph included in the first place? And why "fluff" the data?
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