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Posted: 03/ 08/ 07 4:57 pm Post subject:

"Cosmoclimatology: a new theory emerges" (.pdf) - "Henrik Svensmark draws attention to an overlooked mechanism of climate change: clouds seeded by cosmic rays." (A&G, February 2007, Vol. 48)
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Posted: 03/ 12/ 07 10:19 am Post subject:

Bright sun, warm Earth. Coincidence?
Lorne Gunter
National Post
Monday, March 12, 2007

Mars's ice caps are melting, and Jupiter is developing a second giant red spot, an enormous hurricane-like storm.

The existing Great Red Spot is 300 years old and twice the size of Earth. The new storm -- Red Spot Jr. -- is thought to be the result of a sudden warming on our solar system's largest planet. Dr. Imke de Pater of Berkeley University says some parts of Jupiter are now as much as six degrees Celsius warmer than just a few years ago.

Neptune's moon, Triton, studied in 1989 after the unmanned Voyageur probe flew past, seems to have heated up significantly since then. Parts of its frozen nitrogen surface have begun melting and turning to gas, making Triton's atmosphere denser.

Even Pluto has warmed slightly in recent years, if you can call -230C instead of -233C "warmer."

And I swear, I haven't left my SUV idling on any of those planets or moons. Honest, I haven't.

Is there something all these heavenly bodies have in common? Some one thing they all share that could be causing them to warm in unison?

Hmmm, is there some giant, self-luminous ball of burning gas with a mass more than 300,000 times that of Earth and a core temperature of more than 20-million degrees Celsius, that for the past century or more has been unusually active and powerful? Is there something like that around which they all revolve that could be causing this multi-globe warming? Naw!

They must all have congested commuter highways, coal-fired power plants and oilsands developments that are releasing large amounts of carbon dioxide into their atmospheres, too.

A decade ago, when global warming and Kyoto was just beginning to capture public attention, I published a quiz elsewhere that bears repeating in our current hyper-charged environmental debate: Quick, which is usually warmer, day or night?

And what is typically the warmest part of the day? The warmest time of year?

Finally, which are generally warmer: cloudy or cloudless days?

If you answered day, afternoon, summer and cloudless you may be well on your way to understanding what is causing global warming.

For the past century and a half, Earth has been warming. Coincidentally (or perhaps not so coincidentally), during that same period, our sun has been brightening, becoming more active, sending out more radiation.

Habibullah Abdussamatov of the Pulkovo Astronomical Observatory in St. Petersburg, Sami Solanki of the Max Planck Institute for Solar System Research in Germany, Sallie Baliunas and Willie Soon of the Solar and Stellar Physics Division of the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics and a host of the rest of the world's leading solar scientists are all convinced that the warming of recent years is not unusual and that nearly all the warming in the past 150 years can be attributed to the sun.

Solar scientists from Iowa to Siberia have overlaid the last several warm periods on our planet with known variations in our sun's activity and found, according to Mr. Solanki, "a near-perfect match."

Mr. Abdussamatov concedes manmade gasses may have made "a small contribution to the warming in recent years, but it cannot compete with the increase in solar irradiance."

Mr. Soon showed as long ago as the mid-1990s that the depth of the Little Ice Age -- the coldest period in the northern hemisphere in the past 1,500 years -- corresponded perfectly with a solar event known as the Maunder Minimum. For nearly seven decades there was virtually no sunspot activity.

Our sun was particular quiet. And for those 60 to 70 years, the northern half of our globe, at least, was in a deep freeze.

Is it so hard to believe then that the sun could be causing our current warming, too?

At the very least, the fact that so many prominent scientists have legitimate, logical objections to the current global warming orthodoxy means there is no "consensus" among scientists about the cause.

Here's a prediction: The sun's current active phase is expected to wane in 20 to 40 years, at which time the planet will begin cooling. Since that is when most of the greenhouse emission reductions proposed by the UN and others are slated to come into full effect, the "greens" will see that cooling and claim, "See, we warned you and made you take action, and look, we saved the planet."

Of course, they will have had nothing to do with it.

Lgunter@shaw.ca
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Posted: 03/ 27/ 07 12:01 pm Post subject:

Global Warming Points Sunward

March 25, 2007
The Washington Times

Al Gore won the Oscar for his movie "An Inconvenient Truth." The film's theme is that the Earth is warming alarmingly ("global warming") largely because humans produce too much CO2 and other "Green House Gasses" that trap solar heat.

There is an indisputable record that global temperatures have been rising. In the 20th century, the recorded average temperature rose 0.6 degrees Centigrade (1.08 degrees Fahrenheit), mostly before 1940. Nothing strange there. The planet has been either warming or cooling since its formation some 4 billion years ago.

Common sense tells me the United Nation's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) is up to something other than science when it blames most of global warming on human activity -- specifically CO2 emissions.

My suspicion rose when the United Nations hurried a summary of the IPCC findings before the report itself was to be made public in May. Was the timing a deliberate attempt to take a free ride on media exposure of the Oscar-winning movie? I got even more suspicious when I learned the summary report was written not by scientists but U.N. bureaucrats. Why rush a summary for public view when it is impossible for the public to determine if the summary reflects the report's content accurately?

To my amazement, I found several scientists whose names would appear as supporters of the IPCC report have since asked to have their names removed from the final report. Paul Reiter of Paris Pasteur Institute even threatened to sue. He is not a climatologist; not even a meteorologist. But he is a scientist, an expert in malaria who disagrees with the science behind the U.N. report. He calls it a "sham" because it included names of scientists who disagreed with the findings and who resigned. "That is how they make it seem all the top scientists are agreed," he says. His name was removed only after he threatened legal action.

Just because one is a scientist, one doesn't become an instant climatologist. Many cited in the IPCC report were meteorologists who have trouble predicting local weather beyond a couple of days even with live satellite support from the heavens.

A climatologist is a different breed of scientist who studies precipitation cycles, solar activity, and global shifts through long periods of time gleaned from geological discoveries, including those from ice core samples.

Climatologists have discovered grapes were growing in Greenland, which was indeed green, during the Medieval Warm Period (AD 800-1300). Then came the Little Ice Age (AD 1350-1900) and Greenland turned white and a new warming period began. In a study published in 2003, the National Aeronautics and Space Administration concluded that solar radiation has increased 0.05 percent per decade since the 1070s.

Two separate NASA landings on Mars showed the ice cap at the southern pole (frozen CO2) has been receding as a result of solar activity. If the sun is warming Mars it should also be warming the Earth unless some unknown phenomenon directs any increase in solar radiation only toward Mars.

There is some hope, however, that the human-induced global warming doctrine may end up in the ash bin of history. London's TV Channel 4 recently aired a documentary called "The Great Global Warming Scandal." According to film reviews, it is a devastating blow to the U.N. report and to Al Gore's "An Inconvenient Truth." Scientists from MIT and major universities in various countries, including some whose names also appear in the U.N. report, explain in plain language that the current warming of the globe results from natural solar cycles -- not from human activity. In fact, the globe will begin cooling again soon as solar flares diminish as they have done for millennia. I'll be watching to see if the documentary will find its way to U.S. TV channels.

ALI F. SEVIN
Fort Washington, Md.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/commentary/20070324-100653-4350r.htm
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Posted: 03/ 27/ 07 12:14 pm Post subject:

That story is from 1998.

Posted: 03/ 27/ 07 12:24 pm Post subject:

Posted: 03/ 27/ 07 12:27 pm Post subject:

Bright sun, ..... Warm earth.....

Nope, .... no connection whatsoever!

SUV's, ....... Warm earth...... !!! Any fool can see the obvious connection! Very Happy

Posted: 03/ 27/ 07 12:55 pm Post subject:

Posted: 12/ 22/ 08 11:48 am Post subject:

An excellent read......

The Sun controls the Earth's climate - http://www.populartechnology.net/2008/12/sun-controls-earths-climate.html
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Posted: 12/ 22/ 08 12:14 pm Post subject:

The consensus of science has determined that a tiny, tiny amount of CO2 in the Earths atmosphere controls the Earths temperature. This is caused by man burning fuel and can only be solved by higgher taxes or using liberal economic methods. (or as we have been doing, both in conjunction)

What kind of fools would think the Sun would affect the Earth's temperature. Probably the same sort of people that think their furnace raises the temperature of their house in the Winter. These people are using common sense which is no longer allowed in the world of consensus scientists.

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